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G0698 18" X 47" Wood Lathe

How did you remedy the toolrest hole?

earl timmons said:
I have one of the earliest Laguna 18/47's shipped. It is over two years old now. I have not seen the Grizzly beyond the pictures in the catalog and posted in various forum threads. I doubt that there are differences in the motor or speed control. There are however differences in the spindle. My two year old Laguna is configured exactly like the Grizzly including the spindle not exiting the head stock enclosure and the pulley with the two holes. However the current Laguna has and extended spindle that is threaded on the outboard end and takes a hand wheel that they provide.

By the way I am happy with my lathe and it has performed well for two years. I did have some initial problems but was able to iron them out with Laguna very quickly. The problems were things like quality issues with the Banjo and the original Banjo having a slightly undersized tool rest post hole preventing it from taking an aftermarket rest with a 1 inch post.
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Earl,
You mentioned having a slightly undersized hole in your banjo. How did you remedy that? I bought an aftermarket bowl rest, and I put calipers on it and it was a little over an inch by .002 and I just ground the post on it down with my belt sander. I was wondering if they had a banjo that was the correct bore?

The later laguna 18/47's were made for them with a longer spindle which accepts the hand wheel. I hope in the future that Grizzly does the same thing. I would like to get mine retrofitted for it. I may turn a wooden one from some hardwood and see how it works, at least I've been thinking on it for a couple of weeks.
 
Roger, I simply contacted Laguna and told them that the banjo would not take an after market rest and I felt they should send me a new banjo. They agreed. They had to have one reamed out but I had it in about a week. They did not request the old one back. The after market rest (Robust) is a nice piston fit in the new banjo they sent. Their original rest works OK in the new banjo you just have to remember that if you release the clamp there is no friction left in the system and the rest will go down in a hurry.

I have no idea if Laguna or the original generic manufacturer has changed this. My guess is that since the lathe has metric roots there is a standard metric post that is just under one inch. I am sure they have a large market where this is the correct size. So if they have fixed it they likely would now need to have two banjo part numbers.
 
Overheating?

Earl,

Do you have any problems with overheating? I was turning a vessel yesterday and noticed that the motor was really warm after about 1.5 hours of turning. It was in low, and at about 900 rpms. It seemed to be very hot. Is there an aftermarket fan for something like this?
 
overheating at low rpm

kevinkabby said:
Earl,

Do you have any problems with overheating? I was turning a vessel yesterday and noticed that the motor was really warm after about 1.5 hours of turning. It was in low, and at about 900 rpms. It seemed to be very hot. Is there an aftermarket fan for something like this?
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Kevin,

The electrical engineer, Bill Boehme spoke of overheating at continuous low rpm with any inverter, so that is why the manufactures don't like them run at too low an rpm [much below 300 is what he stated, if I remember correctly] and this is true with most all makes, as Bill opined.

That being said, I have not noticed any on my G0698 as of yet. My lathe is in a outdoor shop building, and the weather is cold now, so I don't know if that is a factor or not. I just know I have put my hand on the motor 3 or 4 times as I have done projects, and it wasn't warm to the touch.

Also, it may be normal to have some heat, but it should not get hot!
 
Kevin in the two years I have had the lathe I never really checked the motor for how hot it got. So as a result of your question I did some checking today. I had to re-sand a 14 inch plus walnut bowl (its a long story). The bowl was already finished turned and sanded to 600. There was no tenon and I was not about to try to grab the nice beaded foot. So I put it on the vacuum chuck and over the course of an hour or so had it mounted both ways. I started re-sanding at 120 grit and went up to 600. I held the speed at about 100 RPM and probably had the bowl spinning 80% or so of the hour that it took to get the job done. I felt the motor case every ten minutes or so and it never did get much warmer than room temp. Like Roger home is the cold country (Minnesota in my case) but I am an old guy and numb fingers are no longer acceptable so the shop is heated to a pleasent 70 degrees.
 
Not as cold as your neck of the woods

earl timmons said:
Kevin in the two years I have had the lathe I never really checked the motor for how hot it got. So as a result of your question I did some checking today. I had to re-sand a 14 inch plus walnut bowl (its a long story). The bowl was already finished turned and sanded to 600. There was no tenon and I was not about to try to grab the nice beaded foot. So I put it on the vacuum chuck and over the course of an hour or so had it mounted both ways. I started re-sanding at 120 grit and went up to 600. I held the speed at about 100 RPM and probably had the bowl spinning 80% or so of the hour that it took to get the job done. I felt the motor case every ten minutes or so and it never did get much warmer than room temp. Like Roger home is the cold country (Minnesota in my case) but I am an old guy and numb fingers are no longer acceptable so the shop is heated to a pleasent 70 degrees.
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Hi again Earl,

I live in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, and while it is cold here [we've had a cold snowy winter this year] it is not like Minnesota. My wife was in St Paul about 10 days ago, and she said it was as cold here as there when she was there, but that is not the normal.

I am glad you took note of your motor temp in room temperature conditions, as I think a more accurate read can be had. If I understand the warranty it is at least a year, and I think that Kevin should turn a number of projects as to get a true look and then if he suspects something is not right with the motor, then he could have Laguna check it out.

I spoke with tech support back last December when I was considering purchasing the Laguna 18/47, and they told me they had very few problems, and one they did mention they addressed by sending an entire new headstock to remedy an electronics problem [the customer lived at the coast and the lathe was exposed to salt air continually]. My feeling is that Laguna will try their best to make sure things are right for Kevin, if there is a problem.
 
vacuum chuck that fits the 18x47 lathes

earl timmons said:
Kevin in the two years I have had the lathe I never really checked the motor for how hot it got. So as a result of your question I did some checking today. I had to re-sand a 14 inch plus walnut bowl (its a long story). The bowl was already finished turned and sanded to 600. There was no tenon and I was not about to try to grab the nice beaded foot. So I put it on the vacuum chuck and over the course of an hour or so had it mounted both ways. I started re-sanding at 120 grit and went up to 600. I held the speed at about 100 RPM and probably had the bowl spinning 80% or so of the hour that it took to get the job done. I felt the motor case every ten minutes or so and it never did get much warmer than room temp. Like Roger home is the cold country (Minnesota in my case) but I am an old guy and numb fingers are no longer acceptable so the shop is heated to a pleasent 70 degrees.
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Hello Earl,

You mentioned in this post that you put your bowl on the vacuum chuck and then re-sanded it. A vacuum chuck system is on my agenda to purchase, and I was wondering if you would let me know which system you have, and how well it works on your Laguna 18/47?

If I remember correctly, yours doesn't have the handwheel, and I was wondering about the size of your draw bar,and the other fittings that make it work with your lathe.

Any help would be appreciated, as I am having to learn as I go with this version of the 18/47 made by Grizzly. If you are able to do it, then posting a few pictures on this thread would really be fantastic! Thanks . . . . 🙂
 
I got my rotary adapter and hubs from Tom at JT. Your Grizzly is configured like my 2 year old Laguna. The new Lagunas have an extended spindle and a hand wheel. Mine was a custom job and I expect yours would be to.
 
earl timmons said:
I got my rotary adapter and hubs from Tom at JT. Your Grizzly is configured like my 2 year old Laguna. The new Lagunas have an extended spindle and a hand wheel. Mine was a custom job and I expect yours would be to.
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Earl,

This is very informative to me. I will contact Tom. I appreciate your helpfulness in this thread, as I believe it not only helps me but others also. 🙂
 
How many owners of an 18x47 lathe read this forum?

Hello all,

I thought it would be interesting to know how many owners of either the Laguna 18x47, or the Grizzly G0698 18x47, or the Busy Bee 18x47 or even the Hare & Forbes "woodmaster 18x47" read this forum.

Also, to have you post which model you own, and what your experiences have been with your machine [what you like about it, or what you might dislike].

For those owners who have had your lathe for a while, how has the performance been, and has any "hunt" at below 100 rpm been noticed, and has it affected your ability to turn, sand or get good results? Other issues as it relates to getting aftermarket accessories, etc.

This kind of information from owners will most likely give a good idea of the quality and performance of this line of machines, and will establish a base for comparison to other lathes on the market. Admittedly, there will be some subjectivity to each owners perceptions, but it will give a sense of the true nature of this line of lathes.

Thanks for participating in this poll of owners....
 
Moved this question to a new thread -"owners poll 18X47 lathes"

I have moved the previous question for owners of the 18 X47 lathes to a new thread, as this one is getting pretty long [over 120 posts, and over 7500 views] so we can get readers without having to look through the numerous posts,

Some interesting questions- owners, please reply, Thanks!
 
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