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Seated turning option?

I tried some seated turning recently for some complicated and tedious hollowing work, where I was hoping that getting my eyeballs lower would relieve some back strain. I used a Rockler stool and to a degree it worked for me, but I found that the stool was not tall enough and I needed to add a cushion. I think with this wobble stool one would need to have two feet flat on the floor, so I'm thinkin' this might work best on a lathe that was lowered (insert the song Low Rider in here).
 
.I’ve got sciatica and trying to find a way to take some weight off my back and legs.

Richard, I also have a bad back. When turning I stand and do the turners dance. But, when I sand and add finish, I find the seat on my walker, used behind ( on the opposite side of where I turn) enables me to work until I complete these projects. I place my dust collection hose on the side where I turn so it doesn't interfere with my sanding/finishing space. I am well satisfied with my solution to my needs. Most seated walkers have adjustable heights and are reasonably priced.
 
Thanks for the replies….
Alan, I do have a sliding headstock and I do turn from the end sometimes so, yes, l could see it.

Larry, is the seat height on the walker adjustable?

Mark, the wobble seat height is adjustable and my lathe height is also adjustable. I guess I would just have to experiment to see what works. Also, thanks for the ear-worm….now I’m going to have Low Rider playing in my head for the rest of the week!
 
Have you thought of trying an office style swivel chair. Remove the castor wheels and mount the chair on a square of plywood with larger 3 or 4 inch fully swivelling wheels/castors bolted to the bottom. You will have a chair that is height adjustable, swivels and by using your feet on the floor you'll be able to move it in any direction. Apart from turning I used to build strip wood kayaks and had a chair like this to move up and down the kayak when fitting and gluing the strips. I now use it at the bench when doing small jobs, very manoeuvrable.
 
Tim, thanks for your idea. Somewhere hopefully in the next few days I’ll jump in and try something. I’ve built a couple cedar strip canoes ( years ago) so I can relate to your experience. Putting this option on my list of things to try.
 
One fellow who taught me decades ago, said turning is a dance with swaying back and forth and even stepping sideways as one makes the cuts. the reason you stand is so you can not sway back and forth as you cut the piece if sitting. . That wobble seat may work for short turning pieces. The only instance of seated turning I ever saw, was a video of a guy using a duplicator.
 
Richard, one stupidly simple trick that might help is to add a different type of motion. You've probably found that standing still is hard, and walking is more tolerable. It is possible to mimic the movement of walking. Also, when standing still, it can help to flatten your back.

What's the stupidly simple trick, you wonder? Place a box, short step stool, or something supportive in the 3-6" height range, maybe 18" wide, under your lathe, an inch or two ahead of where your toes are. When your back starts to bother, put your left foot up on the step. In a little while, your back will start to bother again, so switch to your right foot. If the switching is frequent, this can be like a walking motion. This trick isn't going to work for everyone, but it costs next to nothing to try and see how much benefit you get.

There are also strengthening exercises for low backs (NOT sit-ups or crunches), which if they aren't already part of your daily routine, along with a walk, you need to add. These can be really helpful, if properly done, and many people should learn them from a physical therapist to do them properly and not cause problems. If that's not feasible, look up Mackenzie Back Exercises on the Internet, as they're a safe, DIY alternative.

It also might be helpful to have your club mentor watch you turn, if you can. It's possible that your feet are positioned in a way that's adding to your trouble, and a mentor might notice and recommend a change.
 
Dean, thank you for the information. I’ve been doing the Mackenzie exercises ( without knowing the name). Been through a total of 4 mo physical therapy this year and that’s what they have me doing.
No club nearby enough for me to attend ( meetings an hour away and at night).
I will try the “ stupidly simple trick “. Funny how sometimes something that may sound odd or funny can be just the answer. I’ve got nothing to lose at this point.
Thanks !
 
Larry, is the seat height on the walker adjustable?

Richard, both of my seated walkers have height adjustments. I can't definitively say they all do. However, the one I use to walk has a taller frame than the one I keep in my shop. One caveat: whenever you sit in the raised walker seat be careful whenever you bend over to pick something from the floor. I tend to stand up before bending over because the raised seat causes me to need to reach forward pretty far forward. When I do that I'm not feeling stable. Otherwise, I am very happy using my walker as a comfort aid.
 
As an off the wall thought has anyone considered a harness suspended from above to reduce the load on the hips and legs and still allow "the dance"?
If I remember the astronauts who went to the moon trained in something like that to get them used to lower gravity.

As I said an off the wall idea.

Stu
 
As an off the wall thought has anyone considered a harness suspended from above to reduce the load on the hips and legs and still allow "the dance"?
If I remember the astronauts who went to the moon trained in something like that to get them used to lower gravity.

As I said an off the wall idea.

Stu
An adult version of a little kid's swing? This is very interesting. I hope you receive several replies in this thread. Storage of it would be great too.
 
I have a oneway 2436 and I am considering taking the swing away remote off the pole and coming up with a stronger replacement pole the same size, attach a height adjustable shaft with swiving wheel wheel to support my weight.

Ed
 
I have a oneway 2436 and I am considering taking the swing away remote off the pole and coming up with a stronger replacement pole the same size, attach a height adjustable shaft with swiving wheel wheel to support my weight.

Ed
Not sure I’d want to be attached to the lathe if some went south in a big way.

I’m having some mobility issues. Was going to cut the top off a dead palm tree with a pole saw. I could use the pole saw to make the cuts but I knew I couldn’t escape if it fell my way. 95% sure it would fall safely but…. First rule in cutting a standing tree is to clear an escape path and know when to use it. Got someone else to cut it.
 
About ten years ago, there were a couple of plans for adapting midi lathes to sit down lathes that are tilted towards the turner. I think I have them archived on my computer. I put them away for old age when ever that happens. I was having bouts of sciatica a couple of years ago and got close to doing it. Have tried turning on my 2436 with a high stool but not very practical.
 
I ordered the “wobble stool “ that I linked to in the OP. I’ll post a review after I’ve had a chance to try it out. If you don’t see the review, it means I wobbled off of it…..send help !
 
I ordered the “wobble stool “ that I linked to in the OP. I’ll post a review after I’ve had a chance to try it out. If you don’t see the review, it means I wobbled off of it…..send help !

Richard, #119 is very interesting. I am looking forward to your review. It looks safer to bend over to pick up a dropped item also. :)
 
Richard, it will be interesting to hear, and perhaps see (photo?), how you get on.

I take it you've seen the information on the Resources pages of the AAW website:


The bench seat, similar to a weavers bench seems to work well for some, it all depends on specific requirements.
 
Hey Chris, yes, I have looked at those benches and thought about buying/ making one. I am a little tight on space was one consideration. I’m also a little impatient and knowing me the way I know me, it would’ve taken a year or three !
After I’ve gotten this wobble stool and tried it out, I’ll be happy to post my thoughts and a picture or two.
 
Having been through 6 spine fusions over the past 10 years, I was desperate to find a comfortable way to keep turning. My ever-resourceful wife found this stool by Vyper. I absolutely love it. This is the Acme screw version, and I gets my elbow up to around 42”, just below the 45” height of my rest. The base is super wide and I have not had any tipping incidents. I stick my feet on the ballast under the lathe and scoot around as much as I want. Takes a minute to get used to it, but it works. Fair warning, these things are NOT cheap, but neither is surgery.
 

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Andrew, thanks for your take on the Vyper chair. I’ve looked at these and searched online for anyone us them for wood turning but came up empty. Keeping this on the list of options.
 
I have some back issues too, spine fused T11 - S1 and pins in my SI joint. I have been looking at the Vyper chair for a while. I was thinking of using it for carving, painting, pyrography, and detail type work. It is good to know that they can be used for turning too. The only thing that has been holding me back is the price. But as they say you get what you pay for.
 
I have some back issues too, spine fused T11 - S1 and pins in my SI joint. I have been looking at the Vyper chair for a while. I was thinking of using it for carving, painting, pyrography, and detail type work. It is good to know that they can be used for turning too. The only thing that has been holding me back is the price. But as they say you get what you pay for.
Just had the SI joint treatment this spring. Seems to have solved the last of my issues, for now anyway. The stool is built like a tank and will roll around in a couple of inches of shavings. I’m really happy with it.
 
Oneway used to make the 1236SD lathe, SD meaning sit down, for wheelchair and seated people. Don’t know if they still do. Saw it in Winter 2011 Woodturning magazine.
 
I bought the oneway 1236SD this past year and do not regret it. I worked for several years trying to make the mini work as sit down, without good results. I truly love the sit down, but there is a slight bit of learning curve, and you have to buy spats to keep the wood shavings out of you shoes.
 
I bought the oneway 1236SD this past year and do not regret it. #28
Hi Arthur, I'm not familiar with the Oneway sd. I am familiar with the Robust sit down. Did you shop the two before deciding to buy the Oneway? Although I am still able to turn standing up, I sand while sitting on a walker seat. As my back continues to worsen, I will probably purchase a sit down lathe. Will you please share what features you especially like about your lathe. Anecdotal experiences are so much better than catalog descriptions.
 
ONEWAY and Robust both have sit down lathes.
These are both worth considering.

I think the Robust is a better choice for most people. But the choice is better made by the seated turner.
Many turners find sitting at a regular lathe, shortbed, outboard, or sliding headstock works for them.

Two seated turners in our club turn very differently from wheelchairs. One locks the wheels on the chair and uses his upper body a lot. The other has some use of his feet and rolls the chair back and forth as he turns.

Adam Hood and Tony George are two guys in our club who turn seated.
Check out the August 2012 AAW journal for an article by Ed Brannon.
It features Adam Hood and a lathe Brent(Robust) built for Adam.
 
ONEWAY and Robust both have sit down lathes.
These are both worth considering.

I think the Robust is a better choice for most people. But the choice is better made by the seated turner.
Many turners find sitting at a regular lathe, shortbed, outboard, or sliding headstock works for them.

In addition to Robust and Oneway, I saw in the Vicmarc booth at SWAT, that they now has a a tilted sit-down lathe.
 
Well, I tried….Bought the wobble stool that I referenced in the original post of this thread. While I found it easy to move around and easy to adjust, I just couldn’t get used to it. The wobbling characteristics were a bit too wobbly….who’d a thunk it!
I don’t do a lot of carving but I do have a carving station that I can use the stool for and it does seem to work pretty well for that application, so , no loss there.
 
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