What do you use the golf clubs for, Lou?
Is that for when you get frustrated and just want to throw something? Ha,ha! 🙂
(I gave away my golf clubs many years ago.....so these days, I just grab any ol' thing that's handy! Ha,ha,ha!)
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What do you use the golf clubs for, Lou?
Is that for when you get frustrated and just want to throw something? Ha,ha! 🙂
(I gave away my golf clubs many years ago.....so these days, I just grab any ol' thing that's handy! Ha,ha,ha!)
-----odie-----
For my sandpaper I use a broom handle threaded through large eye hooks. I've assorted my sandpaper in descending order so the largest grit is closest to me.
Does hook & loop last longer than flat sheets? I always assumed one bowl and toss it. That’s what’s keeping me from trying it.
Changing out grits in sequence on one pad results in the hook & loop tearing away from the pad relatively quickly. I use the Roloc system so swapping pads on the mandrel is as easy as a quarter turn on and off. Roloc
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Hard to compare them. Power sanding with h&l is faster and I can stop at a lower grit when finishing with a random orbit than using hand-held sheet abrasives on a spinning bowl. If using the same abrasive type in the same way the backing won't make much difference in longevity. I mostly use the blue discs from Vince's Wood n Wonders and they are pretty durable. Depending on the situation I may use more than one disc of my initial grit on a piece but use subsequent discs on more than one.
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At least some of the discs are mylar backed and will structurally last longer than typical paper sheets. However, the effectiveness of the grit normally wears out long before the backing on both of them.
As for durability, it depends on the wood, the size of the bowl, and the finish off the tool that you achieve. Whether it's one bowl or 3, when it stops throwing off sanding dust in a Niagra-like shower, change to a new one.
One big advantage of discs is that they are less likely to increase waviness in the surface of the wood. Another is that if you try to sand natural edge projects while they're turning on the lathe, it's much less painful to do it with discs on a holder than paper with your fingers.
The only way to know is to try them. Starter sets of discs with a small number of various grits are availble. Dip your toe and find out for yourself.
As far as durability goes, it depends on how good your abrasives are. The old red garnet sheets wore out if you just looked at them. The newer 'cubitron' stuff from 3M seems to outlast just about anything out there. The white aluminum oxide and the red stuff (also aluminum oxide?) seem to go fairly quickly. Not sure about the Abranet since I don't use it. Abrasives have come a long way.
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Yes, cubitron is great stuff. Have you found a source for it in 2" or 3" h&l discs?
I punch out 2” discs from the larger ones. But I find that the plastic backing tends to break down quite quickly and the abrasive flakes off. Perhaps it depends on the shape of the bowl when sanding the inside.
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3" H&L cubitron Xtract disks available at Taytools.com, for one.
And for the momment, at least, the Extract disks are on sale.
I know there are sources for the cubitron discs, but they are in 2 and 3 inch only. I have gotten used to the 3+ inch ones from Vince, and want them. Not available, at least not yet. Some thing else I would like to see would be the cubitron belts for my drum sander. Only available if you buy 35 yard long rolls, which is not a problem, but you need to buy the full width of the sanding roll, which is about 5 foot wide.....
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Ok, for 3" sanding velcro disc, I use 4" PVC pipe, drill sight holes along one side to see how many are remaining for restocking, then cut an end cap glued off the bottom half way-up for ease of removing a single disc. If you desire, the end cap can be screwed down before gluing onto a board, or they stand well because I used schedule 40 PVC which weighs more.
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I finished this sanding disk holder a few days ago. I used my CNC router to carve the numbers and drill the dowel holes. I have used it a few times and it works well.
Man, you guys are just way too organized. I'm jealous! My sandpaper supply is getting out of control, but this certainly gave me some good ideas. I'm also in need of marker and paint organization.
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Pretty fancy !!!!
Thank you!
@toddshesman: Is that your F4U in your avitar?
Hey, @odie . I am trying to get my sanding station and process in order. I like your setup and can see why you would break down full sheets to strips.
What size of sanding strips do you make? And do you use the full piece or tear off a piece? Thanks for the guidance.
Howdy Doug......I don't know offhand the exact measurement of the strips, but I think the standard sheet is cut into 7 strips. If you look at the paper cutter, you'll see markings at the head, which I align with the edge of the sheet while I'm cutting them. It's not an exact measurement.....close enough is good enough for sandpaper strips. 🙂
I usually don't tear off any pieces of the strips, but rather fold them into whatever size is best for whatever I'm doing at the moment.
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Kevin I like that a lot. I might have to copy some of the when I move my lathe to the new shop.
The harbor freight flip out boxes are mounted on a piece of plywood that slides out on drawer slides. (Idea came from a guy on here. I'd have to go looking through old posts to find his name)
A lot of my sand paper I store in the flat storage containers you see that came from dollar tree. The shelf unit is just one of those particle board things repurposed that I added some extra shelves to.
A lot of my sand paper I store in the flat storage containers you see that came from dollar tree. The shelf unit is just one of those particle board things repurposed that I added some extra shelves to.
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I thought not having fingerprints was a good thing....... Boy we must live different....
Where did you get the punch? I haven't had good luck making one out of a hole saw and craft punches won't touch sandpaper. I did see a turner in the uk sells a couple of punches but I figured I could buy better sandpaper by the time you figure in the cost.
Thanks Odie. So about 1-1/2" strips. And, I can see the pro tip of label first and then cut. I can see why that would be important too.Howdy Doug......I don't know offhand the exact measurement of the strips, but I think the standard sheet is cut into 7 strips. If you look at the paper cutter, you'll see markings at the head, which I align with the edge of the sheet while I'm cutting them. It's not an exact measurement.....close enough is good enough for sandpaper strips. 🙂
I usually don't tear off any pieces of the strips, but rather fold them into whatever size is best for whatever I'm doing at the moment.
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Looks like high-end furniture in your shop. 🙂
I think that "cheap" and "peanuts" are a natural fit, just like a hand and glove.
I got a wad punch years ago from eBay. It punches through 2-3 thicknesses, using a club hammer and an end grain block under the discs, until the block gets too cut up. But more recently I’m laser cutting them. That does a neat job and is more accurate, so less waste. I use the offcuts for spindle sanding.
I use the punches that fit drill press and they work well, came from Harbor Freight.
I couldn't find any 2 inch punches online other than the hydraulic one that needed a pilot hole, do they still sell them?
Too slick!
Actually I was thinking of 1 inch and smaller.
But here are 3 choices: Ace Hole Saw
Amazon Craft Punch
Amazon Leather Dies
I might have to give the leather dies a try. I bought one of those craft punches the other day and it wouldn't cut through the klingspor white color out of the box of hook and loop I had and I don't think it was extra thick or anything. I do like that sandpaper though. I've been cutting it up and using it for hand sanding with some little foam holders I got.
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When I was looking I saw some at McMaster but pretty expensive -- https://www.mcmaster.com/products/punches/shape~round/hammer-driven-hole-punches-7/
I eventually found one on Amazon (look for "wad punch" or "arch punch"); got lucky and got a "used like new", probably a return, for half price.
Got a couple of those. Brilliant to organise your grits especially if you are using Vince's Woodturning Wonders 3" rounds.
For discs I've had good luck with hanging cloth shoe organizers. My basement shop has sturdy exposed brass pipes which come in handy. As you can see in the first picture I hang discs on the wall when not in use. They're usually turned around to keep dust and shavings out. In the second picture I've moved them close to the lathe to sand. The shoe organizers are cheap, lightweight and work well for me.
Separately, please excuse the messy shop!
Separately, please excuse the messy shop!
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