Reed is off fishing for a week and wanted this posted for safety reasons
http://youtu.be/F4qIM_-Jzgk
http://youtu.be/F4qIM_-Jzgk
No face shield?
.... That said, the attached is hung on the wall near my lathe. It's held together with CA and tape. It made really impressive dents in an HVAC duct when it "exploded."
Hi,
One more thought on safety - Powermatic (and perhaps other lathes) come with a "cage" or guard, are these known to catch stuff that comes off the lathe?
Herb
Hi,
One more thought on safety - Powermatic (and perhaps other lathes) come with a "cage" or guard, are these known to catch stuff that comes off the lathe?
Sure they will. Stuff "comes off" because it's flung or because it's pushed. While a crack on the knuckles or a thump on the thigh is no fun, we really worry about head/chest, so the cage only needs to cover above center - the dangerous part of the throw zone.
Depending on how you present your tools, it's certainly enough to use the cage. It'll do more for you than that catcher's mask. The old ones with the plexiglass windows were, however prone to get messed up beyond use when turning wet wood, or attract dust when sanding, like a face shield.
How many people use them? Betting a poll would show a percentage lower than the number who use the guard on their tablesaw. Inconvenient.
I do! Not all the time or even often. But when I feel that there might be a possibility of a problem I do.
.... Now, if some enterprising person were to put the effort into designing and manufacturing a lathe cage that would have prospect of success .......he should think about something that is light, easily folds up for compactness, and might attach to the bedways, or floor mounted, or . That way, it would be saleable to anyone with any lathe, who wanted it. I think I'd buy something like that.:cool2:
.... I haven't been sure of how to say what I have to say, without avoiding confrontation. I don't think that's possible.....so here goes! ...
If I had a cage like those supplied with the Powermatic, there are times when I would certainly use it.
The Powermatic cage has been discussed on several occasions. From what I gather, most turners leave them off. They are not convenient to remove and install, and are in the way when flipped over, and not actually being used.
ooc
Let 'er rip, Odie -- you know we're with you, bud ... at least through the first paragraph.
Actually, I am still trying to figure out how to disagree with you, but I'll keep working on it so that you won't be disappointed.
Heh,heh,heh........I think you are one that will allow a difference of opinion, as long as you are allowed yours. This is basically what I try to do, as well. (Well......to a certain point, and that point was breached with the lack of face protection)
Robo seemed so sure of his beliefs, and it appeared as if he was indicating those who don't have the same opinions as he does regarding "line of fire", are just wrong. One thing that has been good for me in my participation in these forums, is to see that most/many things are not a right vs wrong thing......simply a matter of individual perspective.
That which gave me pause in replying to Robo's thread, is to do it without implying his viewpoint about LOF was invalid, as it applies to his turning......allowing him his "space", as well as having mine.
ooc
MM,
I guess after seeing many people post pictures of there walls or light fixtures ruined I would have to answer your question as yes it still does damage. I believe however that you were being a bit facetious and condescending with your reply. On Saturday I roughed out the exterior of a couple of dozen bowl blanks. I turn left handed when roughing so I am well out of the line of fire. Depending on the size of blanks I am turning at speeds of 150 rpm to 700 rpm depending on bowl size and how true the blank is. On three occasions there was a loud ping on my face shield. One sounded like it would have hit me in the neck the other two sounded as though they would have hit me in the forehead somewhere. On all three occasions I stopped the lathe to inspect the blank to see what was causing this since these blanks had no bark on them (14" to 16" size). There were no signs of chunks out or knots or inclusions or wind/ring shank or anything for that matter. My point is I would not have wanted those pings to have hit me above the shoulders (or anywhere for that matter). I have no doubt that they would have done minor damage but I also have no doubt they would have stung. I cannot be sure how they pinged me but they did and my face was at least 12" to 24" behind the line.
MM,
I guess after seeing many people post pictures of there walls or light fixtures ruined I would have to answer your question as yes it still does damage. I believe however that you were being a bit facetious and condescending with your reply. On Saturday I roughed out the exterior of a couple of dozen bowl blanks. I turn left handed when roughing so I am well out of the line of fire. Depending on the size of blanks I am turning at speeds of 150 rpm to 700 rpm depending on bowl size and how true the blank is. On three occasions there was a loud ping on my face shield. One sounded like it would have hit me in the neck the other two sounded as though they would have hit me in the forehead somewhere. On all three occasions I stopped the lathe to inspect the blank to see what was causing this since these blanks had no bark on them (14" to 16" size). There were no signs of chunks out or knots or inclusions or wind/ring shank or anything for that matter. My point is I would not have wanted those pings to have hit me above the shoulders (or anywhere for that matter). I have no doubt that they would have done minor damage but I also have no doubt they would have stung. I cannot be sure how they pinged me but they did and my face was at least 12" to 24" behind the line. When something is spinning whether on a wood lathe or something else you cannot be 100% sure what direction an object is going to travel once it releases from the spinning object. All you need to look at is a baseball. Once it leaves the pitchers hand the spin of the ball determines whether it goes up, down, in or out. Be careful out there and where your face shield.
Robo,
as baffled as you are on what was pinging me. When there is no sign of a chipped out piece from whacking like MM says or anything else unusual it is hard to tell. If a person could find what pinged them then you could probably figure out
I so often hear that a face shield is the last line of defense, maybe so. It was the first line of defense when whatever it was that pinged me, three times. Besides, why for safety purposes would you disregard any line of defense. It is probably the cheapest and yet very effective way to help protect yourself. Robo did a nice job on the video displaying his intent on the line of fire. I commend him for that. I just wished he would have taken it a step further and showed all the lines of defense. He would have taken a good video to a great video level for everyone to reference.