I renewed the family for two more years. John Lucas is right by the way. There is no elite folks in the AAW. But those that have been around a long time do deserve the respect they are given. Experience means something. Expertise in turning combined with political skills, the ability to speak and write well. My two favorite AAW prezs were David Ellsworth and Alan Lacer. Elite? Move into the future ladies and gentlemen. Pick a person who you would say is part of the elite group and send them a polite email and strike up a conversation. See what you get back. Dont be a pig and dont be demanding. But as John said. If you did not know who they were? It would not matter anyway. Cause this is one of the most giving fields I think there is. An overbearing and demanding individual however who thinks my time is worthless unless its spent on them? This boy can get pretty rude. Its a big world but a small group of turners. To me a value exists in being a member. The journal alone is worth the price of admission. I disagree with the person who feels its not written well. Its written for us turners.