I also have previous experience with Grizzly and it is not very good.Nobody sells Grizzly like Roger. Why they don't have him on retainer is beyond me. I'm the exact polar opposite. Based on previous experience, I'll never own another Grizzly machine. There is no qualifier for what quality people will be satisfied with. There are some people that love Harbor Freight lathes too. I firmly believe you get exactly what you pay for.