John Van Domelen brought this to our attention:
As a past perpetrator of less than elegant language on these threads, let me add this about that:
I WAS WRONG as a member of AAW to have used language and phraseology intended to incite, inflame, insult and otherwise abuse people who "dared" to post equally uncouth opposing points of view.
While my views have not changed significantly, my tactics will...
Here's MY issue around this spiteful hurtful insulting dialogue that continues - unlike Ed Davidson, I'm not going to list the many specific transgressions made by the persons for whom I have become concerned, I'm just going to name the most prominent and my reasons for objection - Ron Sardo, Mark Mandell, David Walser have each engaged in (MUCH) less than elegant discourse.
Each of them is hard at work rewriting the ByLaws, important work which we should respect. I, for one, hope that these changes reflect my concerns and desires for the "new and improved" AAW...
Each of these gentlemen, and past president Al Hockenberry have recently engaged in intentional insult, baiting, taunting, misrepresentation and, and, and...
As individual members of AAW, they certainly have the right to say what they will, how they will, to whom they want, because they feel like it (within the guidelines), BUT - as policy makers and representatives of AAW, to the membership, their behavior has been appalling and most certainly not in keeping with what I should be able to expect from said representatives. It is time for them to STOP communicating their vitriol. Certainly, they can and should continue to provide information to the membership, even the ones with whom they disagree, but they MUST do it in a civil, respectful manner.
If we, members want this to stop, we need to take some course of action to see that we are taken seriously about this one thing (as a start).
To that end, if this behavior continues, I will not renew my membership. While it may not matter to those few, it may mean something to others.
Additionally, I would ask everyone else to "be the bigger person." If someone uses poor judgment in communicating towards us, it doesn't entitle us to respond in kind, nor does it excuse that kind of behavior. I'm really tired of it, myself - you???
PLEASE make this a safe and pleasant place to talk about woodturning.
I am a new member of the AAW. About 2 months. The next time my membership comes up for renewal. I will think very serious about renewing it. You are worse then little children. Most of you are so wrapped up in your self's that there is no room for anyone that holds an opinion that is different. As an outsider I wanted to just to get information on wood turning.
As a past perpetrator of less than elegant language on these threads, let me add this about that:
I WAS WRONG as a member of AAW to have used language and phraseology intended to incite, inflame, insult and otherwise abuse people who "dared" to post equally uncouth opposing points of view.
While my views have not changed significantly, my tactics will...
Here's MY issue around this spiteful hurtful insulting dialogue that continues - unlike Ed Davidson, I'm not going to list the many specific transgressions made by the persons for whom I have become concerned, I'm just going to name the most prominent and my reasons for objection - Ron Sardo, Mark Mandell, David Walser have each engaged in (MUCH) less than elegant discourse.
Each of them is hard at work rewriting the ByLaws, important work which we should respect. I, for one, hope that these changes reflect my concerns and desires for the "new and improved" AAW...
Each of these gentlemen, and past president Al Hockenberry have recently engaged in intentional insult, baiting, taunting, misrepresentation and, and, and...
As individual members of AAW, they certainly have the right to say what they will, how they will, to whom they want, because they feel like it (within the guidelines), BUT - as policy makers and representatives of AAW, to the membership, their behavior has been appalling and most certainly not in keeping with what I should be able to expect from said representatives. It is time for them to STOP communicating their vitriol. Certainly, they can and should continue to provide information to the membership, even the ones with whom they disagree, but they MUST do it in a civil, respectful manner.
If we, members want this to stop, we need to take some course of action to see that we are taken seriously about this one thing (as a start).
To that end, if this behavior continues, I will not renew my membership. While it may not matter to those few, it may mean something to others.
Additionally, I would ask everyone else to "be the bigger person." If someone uses poor judgment in communicating towards us, it doesn't entitle us to respond in kind, nor does it excuse that kind of behavior. I'm really tired of it, myself - you???
PLEASE make this a safe and pleasant place to talk about woodturning.