In the market for a new 5/8~ 3/4 bowl gouge. I'm thinking m2 or m42 but which manufacturer? Is there really any difference between them?
differences in the flute are the first thing I look at.Is there really any difference between them?
I bought one of these specifically for that purpose, but it's not parabolic despite the claims. It's a challenge to keep a good shape on the grind. I'm much happier with a true parabolic.if you use the Ellsworth grind the Jamieson gouge made by Thompson is the one to get.
haven’t found it hard to sharpen I use the Ellsworth jig. I do let my wing get a bit longerI bought one of these specifically for that purpose, but it's not parabolic despite the claims. It's a challenge to keep a good shape on the grind. I'm much happier with a true parabolic.
I have had Roberto Ferrer here all week and we had this conversation. My take is this, as long as the tool is sharp I personally do not care what shape the flute is. Proof in the pudding is the hundreds of pros who espouse the tools they use but despite the fact that they all may have different flutes they manage to produce fantastic pieces. Same goes for all us non pros for the most part. Nothing wrong with having a special or favorite tool but the tool does not make you a better turner. How you use that special or ordinary tool is what determines the results. With that said I have my favorites, Thompson Tools as they stay sharper longer for me (with D-Way as a backup) and Hunter Carbide which for me has no equal. For proof hand your favorite tool to a newbie and without instruction see what he does with it
Crown or Henry Taylor. Not interested in anything that isn't a true parabolic flute.
I agree with both of you. Don't care as long as it's sharp with a reasonable edge profile.My take is this, as long as the tool is sharp I personally do not care what shape the flute is
Amen to that! practice, learn, practiceI have had Roberto Ferrer here all week and we had this conversation. My take is this, as long as the tool is sharp I personally do not care what shape the flute is. Proof in the pudding is the hundreds of pros who espouse the tools they use but despite the fact that they all may have different flutes they manage to produce fantastic pieces. Same goes for all us non pros for the most part. Nothing wrong with having a special or favorite tool but the tool does not make you a better turner. How you use that special or ordinary tool is what determines the results. With that said I have my favorites, Thompson Tools as they stay sharper longer for me (with D-Way as a backup) and Hunter Carbide which for me has no equal. For proof hand your favorite tool to a newbie and without instruction see what he does with it
Good, bad, or ugly, I'm leaning to D-way & Thompson. Crown is out of my allowance
A decent pro can make any tool work but any bowl turner you choose to mention will opt for a parabolic flute, given the choiceI have had Roberto Ferrer here all week and we had this conversation. My take is this, as long as the tool is sharp I personally do not care what shape the flute is. Proof in the pudding is the hundreds of pros who espouse the tools they use but despite the fact that they all may have different flutes they manage to produce fantastic pieces. Same goes for all us non pros for the most part. Nothing wrong with having a special or favorite tool but the tool does not make you a better turner. How you use that special or ordinary tool is what determines the results. With that said I have my favorites, Thompson Tools as they stay sharper longer for me (with D-Way as a backup) and Hunter Carbide which for me has no equal. For proof hand your favorite tool to a newbie and without instruction see what he does with it
I've used the Henry Taylor SuperFlute for over 30 years. I believe it was the first parabolic gouge and was designed by Roy Child. I also use a Sorby switching from one to the other when the first gets dull.Crown or Henry Taylor. Not interested in anything that isn't a true parabolic flute. Was disappointed to find out D way isn't despite their website saying so.
Crown makes M2 tools and M42 tools, in addition to the PM tools. All have similar flutes, AFAIK, but the price goes M2-->M42-->PM, as you would expect. If you want a Crown shape and are happy with lower priced steel, you can get it.Crown is out of my allowance
I bought one of these specifically for that purpose, but it's not parabolic despite the claims. It's a challenge to keep a good shape on the grind. I'm much happier with a true parabolic.
Some of the rest of us have found the same thing with the Thompson gouges. They're great tools, but don't work with all grinds.For 5/8 bowl gouges I have a Thompson deep v, and a few sheffield-Leyland. I struggle with the Thompson, my favorites are the sheffield leyland(that's putting me firmly in the minority of liking cheaper gouges). I've got some sorby and crown gouges in 3/8 and a 1/4 inch oneway gouge. I like them all except I find the Thompson deep v doesn't seem to like the ellsworth grind, just haven't decided what I'm doing with it yet.
I'm also a fan of the Oneway double-ended gouges but buyers should be aware that they are larger in diameter than their designated size -- 5/8" is not 0.625, it's 0.640, which makes a difference in which handle adapters it will fit into. Smaller sizes likewise larger than specified but I don't have the numbers at hand. Great gouges!I second the recommendation for the one-way double ended mastercut gouges. They are a true parabolic gouge made of good steel, m4. So sharpening to 40-40 is a breeze. I really enjoy the flute size, much larger and deeper than the big names. My routine is to sharpen both ends of two 5/8 gouges, so 4 flutes, all the same. I only do this with that gouge since it’s the tool I use for most of my work.
Also, because these aren’t boutique tools, I’m not concerned that they last a lifetime! Use it up and get another.
In the market for a new 5/8~ 3/4 bowl gouge. I'm thinking m2 or m42 but which manufacturer? Is there really any difference between them?