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Wood Fast Lathe?

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I am still trying to decide which lathe to buy. I have seen mention of the Woodfast lathes but no one has commented on them really. Any experience with them out there? I 'd appreciate any input . No one I can find in our club here in central Fl. has any experience. Thanks
Frank
 
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Had a week on one.

Frank
I attended a class at Crafts Supply last year. The lathe I used that week was a Woodfast and I enjoyed it. Very solid and ran smooth. It had 'splayed' legs at the headstock end that I kicked alot but it sat still. It seemed very quiet. I liked the spindle lock. My impression, a simple but solid machine. Sorry I don't remember the model number but it had about a 20" throw and a medium length bed, maybe 32".

That said; Why not just go pick up a Powermatic at a local dealer in your pick-up truck instead of paying shipping on the Woodfast?

Frank
 
Woodfast was the lathe of choice before Oneway. They no longer make lathes. So getting a Woodfast lathe would be a lathe without a source for parts. Mind you the motor and controler could be replaced and the bearings are of a standard size.

If you can get a woodfast lathe in good working order for less than $1500 you would have a bargin.

Good luck
 
I have a Woodfast 20" longbed. Great lathe. Craft Supply used to carry them. I would say the Vicmarc is the equivalent lathe today. At one point the Woodfast or General were the lathes to have. Before the Vicmarc's, Stubby's, Oneway's and others started introducing a new line of lathes. If you found a used one I would go for it.
 
Woodfast is still in production, the difference is they are now being made "overseas". If they are still what they used to be, I have no idea. But if you look at this one I suspect that for $1500, they ain't cheaply made.
 
Thanks all
I appreciate the input. I didn't have a chance to talk to Al and Sherry. I asked some of older members and gave up. Yes, I am just about at the point to go to Woodcrafters and get the Powermatic. The Woodfast lathe link that n7bsn gave me at HF is interesting but I again would like to know if anyone has had any experience with these. I'll go to the new HF store that just opened and see if they can help.
Thanks again.
Frank
 
Woodfast V PM

1500 for the Woodfast pictured and you have a 1 hp unit with a 5 step pulley for speed changes. The stand looks like it is covered with sheet metal. It does not give me a sense of weight. There is no weight listed.

So add 1299 for the PM and you get 650 lbs of iron. 2 hp unit with variable speed.

The street price seems to be FOB to a loading dock in the 48 states. My local dealer will match the price, has the loading dock and will loan a trailer to get it to my place.

John
 
Aloha Frank,
Several of the members of our club bought those 10 or so years ago. Every one of them has been replaced with something else. When I turned on one, I felt that it was a light duty machine with poor bearings. It chattered a lot and just felt cheap. I don't know where they went, but I haven't seen one around here in a while. I wouldn't buy one, but might try a PM, as the look and feel more robust.
Doug
 
Frank

I don't know what you're planning on turning but one that's close pricewise is the Jet 1642. 16" diameter over the bed and 42" between centers with the option of getting extensions to go to about 8' if desired. You can turn off the end like the PM. Weight is over 400 pounds (not sure of exact weight). It has EVSR also, which is nice.
I've had the 2 hp unit for a little over a year and I like it. General International has something fairly close in size and cost, though I have not had a chance to look at one.

Paul
 
Thanks guys
Looks like PM gets the votes . Appreciate the help. Makes me feel alot more comfortable with the info you all have given. This forum is an incredible asset for this very purpose . Love it.
Frank
 
Woodfast convert

I purchased a woodfast 20" bowl lathe from Arrowmont last sumer. Hurricane Katrina took out my controller (mounted in the empty leg) I changed bearings, belts, controller and cleaned her up some since the storm. I turn cowboy hats on a regular basis and that starts with an 80 pound blank. I don't have any problems with the lathe. You will find that most of the time a bad lathe is caused by a bad woodturner. I don't baby the woodfast, I just know it's limitations and work right up to that point. I'd buy another in a second, in fact I tried to buy the other one Arrowmont had there but couldn't get it home.
 
good machine

I just bought a woodfast shortbed on ebay and it is anything but light. It must way 400 lbs, took four strong men to load it. Smooth running, 2 hp, runs smoothly, but I have no manual with it. I paid $1500 for it and was truly happy.
 
Hi Frank,

Central Florida owns a short bed wood fast.
It is probably at the fair..
We have a 20" longbed and Dave B. just bought a used shortbed.
Great machines. Like every machine they have a few shortcomings.


The demo lathe we used at the Woodworkingshow was a 20" Rikon.
That Machine is the woodfast reincarnate. Rikon bought the rights to make it.

Happy turning,
Al
 
I purchased a woodfast 20" bowl lathe from Arrowmont last sumer. Hurricane Katrina took out my controller (mounted in the empty leg) I changed bearings, belts, controller and cleaned her up some since the storm. I turn cowboy hats on a regular basis and that starts with an 80 pound blank. I don't have any problems with the lathe. You will find that most of the time a bad lathe is caused by a bad woodturner. I don't baby the woodfast, I just know it's limitations and work right up to that point. I'd buy another in a second, in fact I tried to buy the other one Arrowmont had there but couldn't get it home.

If I was looking for another lathe, I'd feel very comfortable purchasing another Australian Woodfast......very nice lathe indeed!

ooc

I just bought a woodfast shortbed on ebay and it is anything but light. It must way 400 lbs, took four strong men to load it. Smooth running, 2 hp, runs smoothly, but I have no manual with it. I paid $1500 for it and was truly happy.

Mine was originally a 1 1/2hp with step pulleys. I since have converted to variable speed drive. New, my longbed Woodfast was $2000, and the motor/controller conversion was about $800......so, roughly, I've got about $2800 investment in mine......

All the tools, faceplates, tool rests, chucks, and other gizmos probably represent well over $5000 additional, though! 😱

Gary, that lathe is a premium lathe, one of the best in it's day.......and still a great lathe......enjoy it, pardner! 😀

ooc
 

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Hi Frank,
Central Florida owns a short bed wood fast...Like every machine they have a few shortcomings.
Al
Frank,
I'm hopeful by now you have made a decision and you're turning happily. The Woodfast that Central FL Woodturners own is painfully gutless and is good only for small projects. That lathe used to be our only lathe and demonstrators were constantly disappointed by their ability to stall the lathe with heavy roughing cuts. I always felt that we needed to get rid of the DC motor and retrofit with an AC motor and controller. Instead, we opted for a new Powermatic 3520 and the Woodfast collects dust most of the year.
 
Frank,
I'm hopeful by now you have made a decision and you're turning happily. The Woodfast that Central FL Woodturners own is painfully gutless and is good only for small projects. That lathe used to be our only lathe and demonstrators were constantly disappointed by their ability to stall the lathe with heavy roughing cuts. I always felt that we needed to get rid of the DC motor and retrofit with an AC motor and controller. Instead, we opted for a new Powermatic 3520 and the Woodfast collects dust most of the year.

Maybe your club should put that Woodfast up for sale.....there are turners that would appreciate having one, especially at a price that would save them some money.

It's been quite a long time since I've stalled my Woodfast. Personally, it's my opinion that it's a sign of inexperience to stall a 1 1/2hp motor, and I believe the newer Woodfast lathes generally have a 2hp. It's much better to learn tool control than to bore the tool into the wood in a search for speed, or maximum cut per revolution.......even so, during the roughing operation, one might save a few minutes by "forcing" the tool to cut, rather than "guiding" it through a more controlled cut as it should.....and that is a major difference between a novice, and more experienced turners.

Still, the desire for bigger, more expensive, and more powerful lathes seems to be where the "state of the market" has taken us. Some people seem to think the amount of money they spend is a sign of their skill level......(and those who know the difference, have a little private chuckle over that one! 😀) This is not to say a quality lathe shouldn't be the goal of anyone who wishes to expand their knowledge, and open doors to a satisfying future......but, there IS a limit on how much enhancement to turning satisfaction is, or can be gained by sheer mass, swing capacity, and expenditure on a lathe......certainly, there is NO enhancement to one's skill level, or "artistic eye".

In some cases, I'll have to admit that the upper end of the expensive lathes are necessary to the needs of a few turners.......but, the majority of those who have them, look at their investment as a sign, or symbolic of their skill level. On the other hand, there are very flimsy, and generally ill-equipped lathes on the lower end of the spectrum, too.......my advice is to avoid those like the plague, and start with as good a lathe as you can afford.

I expect to hear "howls" of disagreement with my statements above.......but, there will always be those who justify expensive purchases of things that aren't really needed. For the other readers of this post, let me ask you this question: Do you know of turners that produce outstanding examples of craftsmanship, and artistic ability, with mid-range lathes? If you do, then it should be obvious that there is, somewhere in the middle, a place where skill and expenditure meet at a point of mutual benefit.

ooc
 
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I've seen superb work done on crummy lathes
I've seen poor work done a fantastic machines

The investment strategy I recommend is a lower cost lathe and high end classes.


Still, the desire for bigger, more expensive, and more powerful lathes seems to be where the "state of the market" has taken us. Some people seem to think the amount of money they spend is a sign of their skill level.....

ooc
 
Maybe your club should put that Woodfast up for sale....

Funny you should mention that. I offered to buy that lathe way back when but it was determined by the president of that administration to keep it and now it sits, seeing very little use.
A Woodfast was the first variable speed lathe I ever turned on back in 1997 in a class at Craft Supplies with Mike Mahoney. The class lathe had more power than our club lathe, but I was willing to buy the club lathe and convert it to an AC motor set-up.
 
Funny you should mention that. I offered to buy that lathe way back when but it was determined by the president of that administration to keep it and now it sits, seeing very little use.
A Woodfast was the first variable speed lathe I ever turned on back in 1997 in a class at Craft Supplies with Mike Mahoney. The class lathe had more power than our club lathe, but I was willing to buy the club lathe and convert it to an AC motor set-up.


Bob.......

Some of the early Woodfast models offered by CSUSA were supplied with a 1hp variable speed motor. I suspect this is what you are talking about. I wouldn't want any less power than the 1 1/2 hp I currently have.

Mine was originally supplied with a 1 1/2hp motor with step pulley speed changes, which I later converted to a 1 1/2hp variable speed DC motor. I've bogged it down before, but not nearly as much as I did years ago!.......and I attribute this to improving my competence in getting a better cut, without forcing it.

That lathe is a good one. Your idea of putting a more powerful motor in it makes a lot of sense, if it has the early 1hp motor.

My apology for getting sidetracked with the issue.......I have a 1993 CSUSA catalog here, and I forgot all about that 1hp variable speed they used to have.

I purchased my Woodfast in 1992.

ooc
 
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