Why is this guy using spindle gouge

[Joe Eckre]

I thought it was not safe for hollowing? I want to try this project. Would bowl gouge be more safe? How would you do it?
Guy on you tube making scoops

 

[Roger Wiegand]

He's doing end grain hollowing, essentially spindle turning. A spindle/detail gouge is a very good tool for that. It's the tool I most often pick up for that task (having first learned to do it that way in a Richard Raffin workshop long ago). Others use a bowl gouge, scrapers or various carbide tools and even forstner drills to do similar things. The spindle gouge is probably a bit trickier, but is fast and makes a clean cut and you don't need to change tools as you work the inside and outside.

The big no-no is using a tanged spindle roughing gouge to hollow a bowl. The geometry of the of the flute shape is all wrong-- the wings will be in the way and catch, and the tang is not strong enough for the forces exerted, which can bend it badly or in the worst case turn the tool into a projectile when it breaks off.

 

[Joe Eckre]

Thanks for such a detailed answer. I might actually try the forstner.I ordered a drill chuck yesterday.

 

[Roger Wiegand]

Forstner is fine for hogging out material, but dosen't leave a very nice bottom for a scoop. Get one without a point, or file the point off to leave a flat bottom. I'd prefer a rounded cup shape in the inside of a scoop myself. A round scraper will do it nicely and easily.

Here's a link to a video of Raffin doing it:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46F7AnY8I9A

 

[Joe Eckre]

Forstner is fine for hogging out material, but dosen't leave a very nice bottom for a scoop. Get one without a point, or file the point off to leave a flat bottom. I'd prefer a rounded cup shape in the inside of a scoop myself. A round scraper will do it nicely and easily.

Here's a link to a video of Raffin doing it:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46F7AnY8I9A

Oh I didn't know I could do it just with scraper. That sounds better.

 

[hockenbery]

I thought it was not safe for hollowing? I want to try this project. Would bowl gouge be more safe? How would you do it?
Guy on you tube making scoops

Good answers above it is hollowing a spindle.
Scoops, goblets, small vases are usually hollowed and then the outside turned to thickness.
Richard Rafan is the one to watch.

The backhollowing cuts the surface nicely but has a learning curve…
See shavings I get.

 

[GRJensen]

Richard Raffan says he often uses a spindle gouge because they are cheaper than bowl gouges!

 

[Dean Center]

Oh I didn't know I could do it just with scraper. That sounds better.

Cue Robo Hippy.

 

[robo hippy]

Well, of course, scrapers.... They work well for end grain hollowing. I would use a smaller scraper for hollowing a scoop like these, like no more than 1/4 inch, so more of a hollowing tool rather than big bowl scraper. I do like NRSs (negative rake scrapers) for finish cuts inside a scoop or boxes. For a scoop like these, I would go with a smaller one. I have tried that spindle gouge back hollowing cut, and can do it, but have a long way to go before I can claim to be good with it. Richard has a bunch of recent videos up on You Tube. In one of them, he talks about that cut. He said the secret is to not let the nose of the gouge engage the wood other than for drilling. So, when you start to move from center to the outside, pull the gouge out a bit so the nose is not in the wood. I do keep my gouge on the rest and on the side near me, not up in the air. Maybe some day.

robo hippy