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Warning about voting envelope!

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Bill Turpin

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On my voting envelope, the glue strip was stapled on the other side of the pages. When I removed the envelope, the strip tore off, destroying the envelope. It looks like it has been tampered with, all taped up. We do not need any votes disqualified because of a printers error. 🙁

Bill Turpin
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I took out the two staples and got the ballot/envelope out without a problem. Then I straitened the staples back out inserted them and bent them back over and the magazine was complete and as good as new. However I agree this was a very bad design.

Alan
 
i just tore glue label off, inserted ballet with my preprinted name and member #, taped envelope closed (did not use duck tape)😀, mailed it

i am not use to have a ballet with a my name and # on it, i can see why they do it that way, one member one vote, but seems someone could have access to the ballets, or is that the reason the ballets are sent to independant counter????
 
I removed the envelope before I noticed the glue strip was on the other side attached to the ballot. I completed the ballot and mailed it back in the envelope with tape closing the top. If my vote is disallowed because of a Journal error, I will be furious!!!!! Betty, please address this situation; will my ballot be disallowed? Will I be given another ballot? Please inform us.
 
Garmar said:
I removed the envelope before I noticed the glue strip was on the other side attached to the ballot. I completed the ballot and mailed it back in the envelope with tape closing the top. If my vote is disallowed because of a Journal error, I will be furious!!!!! Betty, please address this situation; will my ballot be disallowed? Will I be given another ballot? Please inform us.
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I have nothing to do with the ballots or counting the votes (I live in Indiana -- home office is in St. Paul). I do, however, know two things that might help you be confident that your vote will be counted.

1) The ballots are being counted by a private accounting firm. Did you notice -- the address on the envelope is not the AAW's home office?

2) Your name and membership number were on the ballot to ensure that each paid-up member only gets one vote.

I did the same thing you did -- I tore off the glue strip not knowing of the problem. I simply filled out my ballot, taped the envelope shut, and put the envelope in the mail.

So, there is a way to check to make sure someone's vote was counted because each vote is registered by the accounting firm. If you want more reassurance or more information, it's probably a good idea to email Linda Ferber, administrator, at linda@woodturner.org. Or email the interim ED, Linda Tacke at lt@woodturner.org.


Betty Scarpino, editor, AW
 
In regard to the mail-in ballot – here's what the St Paul office has to say…

1) If you have to use scotch tape to seal the envelop for mailing in your ballot, that will in no way interfere with your ballot being counted.

2) If you destroy the mail in envelop in the process of removing it from the Journal, you may use another envelop to mail your ballot. Just be sure to put the same address on the substitute envelop as was on the original envelop.

3) If you destroy your ballot in the process of removing it from the Journal, a replacement will not be supplied.
 
Alan Trout said:
I took out the two staples and got the ballot/envelope out without a problem. Then I straitened the staples back out inserted them and bent them back over and the magazine was complete and as good as new. However I agree this was a very bad design.

Alan
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Thanks Allan, I spent an hour; staple removal, ballot removal, drop magazine on floor reaching for straightened staples, remaining staple lets several pages go flying, reassemble, vote, stamp and mail.😱😱😀
 
Jake Debski said:
Thanks Allan, I spent an hour; staple removal, ballot removal, drop magazine on floor reaching for straightened staples, remaining staple lets several pages go flying, reassemble, vote, stamp and mail.😱😱😀
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What dedication, dude! I feel like such a slacker, though, having ripped my orderlope from its moorings, then patched it together with tape. Total time, five minutes . . . 😛


Betty Scarpino, editor, AW
 
Betty Scarpino said:
What dedication, dude! I feel like such a slacker, though, having ripped my orderlope from its moorings, then patched it together with tape. Total time, five minutes . . . 😛


Betty Scarpino, editor, AW
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Betty, certainly not to the point of OCD, but every now and then I do dig my heels in until I finish what I was dumb enough to start. :mad:😉
 
How did this happen?

Coming from a commercial printing background, this kind of mistake always annoys me. It's not that the envelope can't be removed with a little creative effort. However, it begs the question, was this the printers error or was this by design?

If it was the printers error, the AAW should be compensated for the mistake. If it was by design, the editor may need to consider that the readership may not want to dismantle the magazine in order to remove the envelope.

Ed Koenig
 
Ed Koenig said:
Coming from a commercial printing background, this kind of mistake always annoys me. It's not that the envelope can't be removed with a little creative effort. However, it begs the question, was this the printers error or was this by design?

If it was the printers error, the AAW should be compensated for the mistake. If it was by design, the editor may need to consider that the readership may not want to dismantle the magazine in order to remove the envelope.

Ed Koenig
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Ed,

It was a printer's error, and yes, AAW was compensated for the mistake...
 
jschnell1203 said:
I haven't received my journal so I called the office today and ask for another one and they will ship it out but without a ballet and I can't get another one unless my original comes in the mail.
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That make 2 of us [at least] that have yet to see their copy of the AAW journal and wondering if we will see a ballot! 😕

Makes me a little aggravated that I might not get one in time for the vote on the BoD.
 
Roger Chandler said:
That make 2 of us [at least] that have yet to see their copy of the AAW journal and wondering if we will see a ballot! 😕

Makes me a little aggravated that I might not get one in time for the vote on the BoD.
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I continue to be on a significant journal delay in spite of contacting the home office several times each year.

... a copy of this months request for more timely delivery follows...

Hi there,
I still haven't received my August Journal. For whatever reason, I seem to be on up to a 2 month delay receiving them and I'm concerned that this issue, containing my ballot, will not arrive in time for the elections that I'm very interested in. I have no idea why I wait such a ridiculously long period of time for these journals and this is the 2nd time I've made a request for a more timely delivery in the past year to no avail.

I'm feeling horribly behind the times. Imagine my chagrin when I realized that we now have these electrically powered lathes to turn with rather than using the old mill waterwheel for power. And... high speed steel tools have replaced the old stone ones I saw advertised in the last Journal I received? The wonders of technology I've missed due to the delay between journals.

I live in the US, within 2 miles of a major USPS mail hub, regularly get mail from your area from clients of mine within 3 to 4 business days but fail to see why I'm nearly a full issue behind every mailing period. People on islands off the coast of MA where I live get the journal more than a month before I do and I'm fairly sure theirs are delivered by trained seagulls. (I'll grant you, knowing as I do several postal employees, the seagulls have a definite advantage in intelligence but come now... The USPS has trucks with air conditioning and sophisticated computer systems to tell them where to go.) Have I offended someone in the shipping department of the distributor? If so please extend my most heartfelt apologies and my sincere promise to avoid offending them in the future. I'll send them a nice fruit basket if it'll help smooth things over.

Can we please come to some arrangement wherein I can actually obtain the current journal while it's actually current and not a back issue and maybe find some way of allowing me to vote in the elections? This year's elections that is?

Thank you for your time
Jim Silva
 
Jim Silva said:
I continue to be on a significant journal delay in spite of contacting the home office several times each year.
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Jim,
Have you made sure your address is absolutely correct? Maybe double check with whomever keeps the journal mailing list (it may be different than the AAW office when you call). Include the zip+4 too just to cover all bases.

Otherwise, I've not a clue why it would take so long. You sure your mailcarrier isn't a turner? Ever asked turners in your town/chapter when they get theirs? (You can do a member search by zip code to see who else is in your exact delivery zone.)

I believe if you have a mailing date and an arrival date you could file a complaint with the local postmaster to investigate the delay - it could be something in their system.
 
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