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Versa mount system: opinions

Zero answers here zero answer in another forum. I guess I'll try it and let you know. Or perhaps not.
 
Give it some time.........

If you would like an answer to your question before making any decision, I would suggest that you wait more than 8 or 9 hours after posting your question before making that decision. I suspect that there are not many turners that use the system you ask about (...I don't, and don't know any turners that do!), so expecting an instant answer after only a few hours is a bit unrealistic. Also, you asked on a Sunday evening during March Madness, where there may not be a lot of activity on this or other Internet forums.

Give it some time.........

Rob
 
Sergio,
Few people on the forum use faceplates in turning bowls or hollow forms.
Quite a few have some faceplate dedicated to various fixtures such as vacuum chucks.

I haven't used the the versa mount or seen them used.

I did talk to ONEWAY about using them for some vacuum attachments and our conclusion was there would be too much air leakage.

If you want to leave unfinished pieces screw mounted the versa mount looks like a good option.
Every thing ONWAY sells works.
It may not suit your needs but it will work as advertised.
Thus is true of all the vendors who market routinely at the AAW Trade show.
We are fortunate that the woodturning community is populated with vendors interested in making happy customers.

Call ONEWAY. They will tell you how it works and whether it will do what you need it to.

I use faceplates for all my hollow forms. But finish them in in one go so no need for the screws to stay in.
Al
 
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Rob Wallace said:
If you would like an answer to your question before making any decision, I would suggest that you wait more than 8 or 9 hours after posting your question before making that decision. I suspect that there are not many turners that use the system you ask about (...I don't, and don't know any turners that do!), so expecting an instant answer after only a few hours is a bit unrealistic. Also, you asked on a Sunday evening during March Madness, where there may not be a lot of activity on this or other Internet forums.

Give it some time.........

Rob
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Hi Rob!
I was just joking! I usually try to make life a little more fun of what it can be but I see it does not always work!
Thank you for your answer.
 
Sergio Villa said:
Hi Rob!
I was just joking! I usually try to make life a little more fun of what it can be but I see it does not always work!
Thank you for your answer.
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The problem is that very often on Internet forums people are seriously concerned if their question doesn't receive an instant response. We can't tell if you're grinning when you ask the question or truly impatient. However, those who have been turning for a while will come to recognize fairly early on that this activity is not a particularly good match for the impatient -- waiting months (or years) for wood to dry, spalt, or grow from a sapling into a large tree -- and then there is waiting for finishes to dry/cure -- waiting for inspiration, etc. I'm waiting to win the lottery, but my chances would be better if I actually bought a ticket.

Back on topic, I have seen the faceplates that you asked about, but never actually considered them nor do I know of anybody that has.
 
Sergio - It had been some time since I had investigated this system, and it seems to have some benefits if you're often switching a piece between a lathes with different spindle sizes, perhaps. But if you just need a couple of faceplates, you can buy nice ones for about the same price as the rings alone for the Oneway system. Is there a particular situation you're hoping to resolve?
As has been pointed out, Oneway makes nice stuff, and it's bound to work as advertised and will solve the problem they were designed for.
 
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Bill Boehme said:
The problem is that very often on Internet forums people are seriously concerned if their question doesn't receive an instant response. We can't tell if you're grinning when you ask the question or truly impatient. However, those who have been turning for a while will come to recognize fairly early on that this activity is not a particularly good match for the impatient -- waiting months (or years) for wood to dry, spalt, or grow from a sapling into a large tree -- and then there is waiting for finishes to dry/cure -- waiting for inspiration, etc. I'm waiting to win the lottery, but my chances would be better if I actually bought a ticket.

Back on topic, I have seen the faceplates that you asked about, but never actually considered them nor do I know of anybody that has.
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Thank you of course. Yes I made the question, first I though to deny it but then....
To my excuse I did not know it was March madness. I will google it.
Finally I googled it and look what came out:

NCAA March Madness | NCAA.com
"www.ncaa.com/march-madness
The Official Website of the NCAA, part of Turner Sports Digital, part of the Turner Sports & Entertainment Digital Network. The most comprehensive coverage of ..."
Do you realize it? Turner Sports Digital, I guess it has something to do with turning...
Regards
 
Update on the versa mount

I just received the versa mount with a 4 and 5 inch rings.
Reasonably solid. Thread is machined very very poorly. I put my finger with a towel in it to clean it and almost cut myself. Burr galore. Incredible. In any case it threads into the spindle.

The most upsetting thing is that the screws that hold the ring to the mount are extremely rare to buy by a regular supply on the 5/8 inch length and obviously easy to lose in the shavings.
I found only a supplier, a Canadian company. One hundred for $99. Perhaps onEway sells them, but generally I like to buy by an industrial supplier like McMaster etc. They have this particular screw but not shorter than 3/4inch.

Not too happy, I should have listened...
 
john lucas said:
check this place and see if they have the screws you need. http://www.mcfeelys.com/screws?src=M7GLMCF&gclid=CIbVhpzjt70CFbBj7AodJWEADA
Also try https://www.fastenal.com/web/home
I don't know anything about the Oneway system other than just looking at it. I did buy some of the rings that Vicmarc sells to screw to your bowls but have never used them. It's one of those things that seemed like a good idea at the time but just didn't work out for me.
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Multiple faceplates are a necessity for those of us who do our finish turning with a faceplate. That way, it can be left in place, and gives you options about what you decide to do next. If you only have one or two faceplates, you either have to dismount and probably won't remount perfectly true, or you have no other option, but to finish the turning before moving on.....

I have about a dozen faceplates, and generally have 2-3 bowls "in progress" at any one time. Life is a lot simpler, when you can do what you feel like doing, rather than being a slave to necessity. :mad:

ooc
 
Sergio Villa said:
I just received the versa mount with a 4 and 5 inch rings.
Reasonably solid. Thread is machined very very poorly. I put my finger with a towel in it to clean it and almost cut myself. Burr galore. Incredible. In any case it threads into the spindle.

The most upsetting thing is that the screws that hold the ring to the mount are extremely rare to buy by a regular supply on the 5/8 inch length and obviously easy to lose in the shavings.
I found only a supplier, a Canadian company. One hundred for $99. Perhaps onEway sells them, but generally I like to buy by an industrial supplier like McMaster etc. They have this particular screw but not shorter than 3/4inch.

Not too happy, I should have listened...
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Did you Google "12 point flange bolt " or screw ? I don't know the size off hand since I won't be in the shop until latter to check my versa mount.
EDIT: The other term to also Google is "double hex head bolt". McMaster's Carr lists them as 12 point flange screws . http://www.mcmaster.com/#12-point-flange-head-screws/=rb7n4m
 
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Sergio,
The one question that hasn't been asked is why do you need extra face plates? I am primarily a bowl turner, and have several face plates, but almost never use them. I use a drilled recess for bowl turning, by using a large forstner bit.

robo hippy
 
Robo, as others have said, one might need to put turnings away for two minutes or may be one months and then remount them on the lathe.
Also I use a fair amount of jam chucks in various sizes and shapes that I use more than once. Often they are made from scrap hardwood that I get from a local mill. Usually they are from 5/4 planks and it is easier to screw them in a face plate rather than going to the struggle of making a tenon or a recess and reuse them many times.
I use also a lot of planed scrap from 2bys often laminated.
A face plate makes my turning experience easier.
 
Brian Myers said:
Did you Google "12 point flange bolt " or screw ? I don't know the size off hand since I won't be in the shop until latter to check my versa mount.
EDIT: The other term to also Google is "double hex head bolt". McMaster's Carr lists them as 12 point flange screws . http://www.mcmaster.com/#12-point-flange-head-screws/=rb7n4m
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I know very well McMaster that I mentioned in a previous post. Did business with them. mcMaster like many others carry the screw but their minimum length is 3/4 inch which is too long. Must be 5/8 inch and so far only that Canadian company carries them. One could use ex socket screws but there is no room for an allen wrench.
I believe that Oneway had a good idea but executed without the final client in mind.

I should have staid with the Vicmarc rings and also saved money.
 
You could always cut the 3/4" down with an abrasive cut off wheel as needed. Besides you loosen the bolts on the ring and twist free , leaving the bolts attached to the ring.
 
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Brian Myers said:
You could always cut the 3/4" down with an abrasive cut off wheel as needed. Besides you loosen the bolts on the ring and twist free , leaving the bolts attached to the ring.
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Yes I know, but I have a problem with my fingers in both hands that make maneuvering little things like screws etc. difficult to control.
Thank you.
Regards
 
Fix for cutoff

Sergio Villa said:
Yes I know, but I have a problem with my fingers in both hands that make maneuvering little things like screws etc. difficult to control.
Thank you.
Regards
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Easy fix here. Put the screw into metal or wood so that the desired length is inside the medium. Grind away the unwanted. The medium used can be sized for easy handling like those OXO kitchen tools for arthritic hands. Hope this helps.
 
Sergio Villa said:
Yes I know, but I have a problem with my fingers in both hands that make maneuvering little things like screws etc. difficult to control.
Thank you.
Regards
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Have you tried contacting Oneway about getting a few spares just in case?
 
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You could always return the Oneway product & get your money back & then use it to purchase more of the Vicmarc product. This solves both problems, you don't have to worry about the screws & you have a nicer finished product & one you already have used & like.😀
 
Well, I can't think of any easy solution other than the Versa Mount. I don't like to take things off the lathe and let them sit, unless it is really dry wood, and can easily be mounted in a chuck.

robo hippy
 
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