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I guess the short answer would be to effectively teach the craft well to others for an extended period of time, and continue to publically demonstrate competence and woodturning skill with one's products that are acknowledged by their peers to be of very high quality. (My personal definition.)

I don't believe it to be a self-proclaimed title, except by the most pretentious or arrogant.

Rob Wallace
 
Rob Wallace said:
I don't believe it to be a self-proclaimed title, except by the most pretentious or arrogant.
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Sort of confused after reading that. If no standards or certifying agency exists, it can be nothing but a self-proclaimed title.

The term "master" presupposes the existence of an apprentice and/or journeyman status. Guilds had specific requirements for each, and were the awarding agency, not the individual. My old friend John had his journeyman cabinetmaker papers issued at the end of his apprenticeship in Germany proudly displayed. From the tales he told, he had earned them!

Note that Norm Abram is listed as a "Master Carpenter" in the Morash shows, a title which had/s both requirements and an issuing authority. http://www.altereagle.com/Master_Carpenter.html
 
Personally, I will consider myself a master when I have nothing left to learn. Aint never going to happen.

robo hippy
 
Ditto what Robbo says. Personally I 'm just going to order an online degree diploma that says I'm a master turner.
 
I have had people call me that, I've corrected them. I've been teaching since 06 quite steady and have had a few articles published. I still wouldn't call myself a master turner. I did see some bowls last week in a shop, they were signed with a master turner title. Certainly not master turner work.
 
Master Turner

I would think that if a gallery like del Mano calls you and you not them you could be a considered a Master Turner. Or just a really big EGO.:cool2:
 
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Personally I 'm just going to order an online degree diploma that says I'm a master turner.
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John, I don't think you need to order one. You have a computer and can make it yourself. After all, I think the last step in becoming a Master Turner is printing your self made diploma.😀

I made mine this morning. :cool2:
 

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There are a good number of turners whose peers have given them the title master. I do not think it is given lightly. And each of them still makes mistakes. It does not demean, but let not only them but those around them know that perfection can never be had. And most of those who are called masters never strive for perfection. Only excellance. But when you get called a master long enough it does not hurt to use it should you wish.
 
me too

Mr President could you print me one too😀
 
John mentioned the British registry
We have no equivalent in the AAW

Maybe it is anyone invited to teach a masters class at
Maryland Hall for the Creative Arts🙂 ,
anyone invited to do 6 rotations at an AAW symposium, or
anyone included in a major book on woodturning.

The problem with the above is it leaves out many excellent turners across the country who work in small production shops without any recognition beyond their customer base.
they make Furniture parts, architectural pieces, baseball bats, night sticks, beer taps, gift items, bowls.......
they use the tools as well as anyone. give them a picture they can turn it. describe it they can turn it.

Al
 
Can't remember if it was Groucho, or W C Fields who said, "I don't know if I would want to belong to a club that would have me as a member." However, if I was mentioned in the same breath as some of my idols, it would feel good. Having too much fun to take it seriously.

robo hippy
 
If you give the title to someone else or someone gives it to you out of a sign of respect that's fine but when someone says "I'm the president, CEO or try to brag about how important they are in a title... they lost all respect from me. There is no title Master woodworker, Master woodturner, Master Machinist, some are a master in there own mind.
 
Doug Thompson said:
If you give the title to someone else or someone gives it to you out of a sign of respect that's fine but when someone says "I'm the president, CEO or try to brag about how important they are in a title... they lost all respect from me. There is no title Master woodworker, Master woodturner, Master Machinist, some are a master in there own mind.
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Too true.:cool2:
 
When I was a boy, my grandmother addressed my birthday cards to

Master Alan Zenreich

When I got older, one year that changed, and cards were addressed to

Mr. Alan Zenreich


So, maybe it should be that if you've been turning for 13 years or more, you should be called a Mister Woodturner.
 
Doug Thompson said:
If you give the title to someone else or someone gives it to you out of a sign of respect that's fine but when someone says "I'm the president, CEO or try to brag about how important they are in a title... they lost all respect from me. There is no title Master woodworker, Master woodturner, Master Machinist, some are a master in there own mind.
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Well said Doug,

Dave
 
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