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I've spent some time hearing about people on the forum, and I keep hearing people say they worked at a school, or teach, or have students. I also hear that some have 20+ chucks or a lot of lathes. I know to some degree that if you are doing this awhile you have probably collected a lot, but some of what I hear seems a little extreme to my newbie ears. My question is, during your time as a woodturner/woodworker, have/do you taught? Was it at a school, public or private, was it a college/university, was it a private class for woodturners?

I see how you would want to for both money and to share your passion. I teach other students at my high school because I want to, and because the teacher asks because he has 2 lathes and tools from the previous shop teacher that he doesn't know how to use very well.
 
Isaac I have never been one to demo but I have always welcomed new turners to teach. I have started many and there has never been a fee for doing it. It has been my way of giving back for those that taught me. For the most part it has always been one on one but a few times I have had two at a time (usually siblings). I applaud the fact that you are doing that and you will get back more than you give.
 
I teach others just to share the passion and help them get through various learning curves more quickly. Most all of my teaching has been one-on-one. I have not done demos but have done group slide presentations. My club has a shop with lathes, and most of the teaching is done there. I have done some teaching in my shop and at student’s shops.

As for # of lathes and/or chucks, turning can be like any other passion - one may choose to expand for various reasons. I’ve been turning ~12 yrs, only have one lathe and it’s sufficient. I do have 1 large chuck, and 2 smaller chucks, just to reduce jaw changes. I only have 1 fly fishing rod/reel, but I have 5 motorcycles I ride.
 
No interest in teaching.

New turners (including myself 43 years ago) only have interest in following the herd. Because of this, I had to un-learn a few things over the years.

It took me a long time to figure out that turners fifty years ago had everything they needed to produce top quality turnings.....all they needed is to learn how to use basic tools and methods to their potential.....and understand there are no silver bullets. New turners don't want to hear that.....instead they want to throw money and effort into where the herd is, rather than where it was.

The real advantages to woodturners ended with the advent of woodturning chucks and M2 steels.....the rest is up to you! Real useful knowledge is still gained the old-fashioned way, believe it or not. (Time in the saddle, and observe and learn.)

Please excuse the rant, but at this stage of my life, all I'm interested in is to become the best I can be while doing what my grandpa would have done back then.

=o=
 
I've recently started doing guided bowl turning instruction at the university where I work. The woodshop has a couple of Lagunas. One of the motivations for this is that there is a very large initial barrier into getting into bowl turning. For a college student that has done the lathe safety training and maybe a very small amount of spindle turning, but doesn't have a lathe at home where they can experiment, they really don't have the first idea of what to do to mount a piece and start turning a bowl. I can guide them through those first steps to significantly reduce that barrier. I can't get through too much in an hour time slot, but we can get a piece mounted, I can describe the fundamentals, and get them to start shaping the outside of a bowl (I always bring in green wood for them to start with).
 
Was it at a school, public or private, was it a college/university, was it a private class for woodturners?
Like you, when folks noticed what I did they began asking me to show them and teach.

My first demo was at an art show. Our club got a free booth if we would do demos. I had never demoed. the club organizer said come and turn tops.
Nervous as can be i goofed and touched the handle ever so slightly with the skew tip as i was cutting the top free.
Pulled out some sandpaper. With 400 the top broke free popped up in the air, I caught it and the five people watching actually applauded….. alls well that ends well.

A few months later I got invited to demo Hollow ball ornaments for my club.
A few years later I got invited to substitute and teach 2 weeks of intermediate wood turning at MD Hall for the Creative arts. This was an 8 week class with 4 instructors each doing 2 weeks.. I did hollow ball Christmas ornaments.

at MD Hall I taught the basic and intermediate woodturning for many years. My wife an I taught a kids class there too.
Got invited to assist at Arrowmont and Cambell. invited to teach at Campbell.
Done lots of club workshops both at teacher and as assistant.
Did a few private lessons.

Lots of demos, clubs, AAW, region Symposiums, Renwick gallery at the Smithsonian.

Teaching really sharpened my skills and made me think about how to pass them on. I teach what I know.
I don’t teach the skew or coring. - I’ve done some one on one with these I can show how I do it I don’t have the breadth to teach them. Also students taught me a lot too.
With bowl gouge I a tweak bevel riding with my finger and thumb on the end of the gouge handle. I can hear the bevel coming off the wood from across the room.

Always emphasize safety through out the course or a demo.
 
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I help with woodturning at our local high school. Our club mentor started an after school wood club at the high school many years ago and when he passed away, I kept that going. Later, I started to come in to introduce the advanced woods students to bowl turning. As noted above, the shop teachers generally don't know about turning, it's quite different from the other wood shop activities, and the specialized knowledge is beneficial to all. 3 other members of our club teach at our other high school, for the same reason. Occasionally, I will introduce someone to woodturning at our local senior center, which has a nice shop.

As for having a large number of chucks or other tools, some woodturners, like enthusiasts of other activities and interests, have a tool buying problem. Until there is a Tools Anonymous, we'll just have to tolerate them. Mostly, they're harmless;)
 
I've spent some time hearing about people on the forum, and I keep hearing people say they worked at a school, or teach, or have students. I also hear that some have 20+ chucks or a lot of lathes. I know to some degree that if you are doing this awhile you have probably collected a lot, but some of what I hear seems a little extreme to my newbie ears. My question is, during your time as a woodturner/woodworker, have/do you taught? Was it at a school, public or private, was it a college/university, was it a private class for woodturners?

I started teaching after I got my first lathe, very soon after I got my first USEFUL lathe. I was a complete beginner but primarily learned from books and loved it. My first two student were my son and his friend. This was well nearly 25 years ago. We later bought a farm and I built a 24x62' shop with climate control down near the barn - makes playing year around more fun! And with the woods full of trees, sawmill, and equipment to move logs, there is plenty to work with.

Since then I've taught dozens of beginners in my shop, usually individuals or in groups of no more than two since I usually have two lathes in the shop. I love it. I've also done demos in various clubs in TN and several surrounding states, and assisted in a course and taught a private course a couple of major crafts schools. I far prefer one person at a time so I my attention can be focused on how best to help them. I've turned down classes of beginners since my attention would be so divided everyone would suffer. (A class of 8 beginners needs at least 4 experienced teachers, IMO.)

My passion is to introduce people to the lathe, show them some examples of things I can make, let them see what it's how the wood spins and the tools are used. Some call and just want something made so I get them to come watch and help a bit, depending on their age and interest. Some may never touch a lathe again - that's OK, now they know what it's about.

Many students come for multiple lessons, some for a year or more. My method of teaching is different from most - I never start with bowls or pens. I mount a smoothly rounded cylinder of maple on the lathe, maybe 12"x2", give initial instruction on tool placement, hand them a shaving-sharp 1" skew chisel, and turn the lathe by hand. I watch every move, correcting tool presentation, angles, arm/leg movement, until they can consistently make delicate shavings down the cylinder. This takes surprisingly little time, 5-15 minutes for most people. When they conquer the shavings, I turn the lathe on the slowest speed and they practice planing cuts, then inch up the speed - in a very short time they are planing with the skew at high speed (it's actually easier that way). Next, I teach v-grooves with the skew, start on coves with the spindle gouge, then eventually get to the spindle roughing gouge and other tools. Each does a practice stick covered with beads and coves at the first lesson. I have NEVER had a student get a catch with the skew.

The reason I start with spindles is it's been shown that spindle turning will teach the fine tool control needed to turn ANYTHING. I have references.

When asked my fee, I tell them "a good story or a good joke". I never accept payment. When someone suggested, I did put have a tip jar when I taught 4-hour bandsaw classes in my shop on how to prepare and dry useful turning blanks from log sections - helped pay for new blades. In general, I don't sell things either but give them away - although I have accidentally made a few thousand$ here and there, sometimes with some arm twisting. If I turned to sell it would be like having a 2nd job which I don't want or need. I teach because I love it.

I've turned plenty of wet wood but I far prefer the advantages of dry wood so that's what I teach. After some introductory lessons we learn to make a variety of things from dry wood - spindles, goblets, bowls, ring keepers, lidded boxes, platters - following their interests. The biggest problem with turning dry over green is availability since green wood is free and dry wood usually costs money. Also, I find turning bowls from green wood, while fun and easy, doesn't provide much challenge. That's one reason I've taught classes on how to cut log sections into turning blanks and dry them. (I've posted a video here on that, one I did for a pandemic zoom demo)

Some examples of a few students at the lathe (I've shown these photos here before):

The two girls in the top center and right were vet students who came to the farm often for the animals. I offered them a lathe lesson - in the morning they learned the skew and spindle gouge and both made things to take home. After lunch I taught the bowl gouge and they did a little practice bowl from cedar then both took home respectable cherry bowls. Good clean fun! One is now a practicing vet, has a lathe and turns often. The other is hard at work on her PHD in pathology and perhaps will play with wood again when she gets some time. The girl in the upper left visited from Italy and took home a beautiful ring keeper.

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I sometimes have very young students, 8-10 years old. In this case, they may do no significant turning but help with pencil lines marking the wood, gentle sanding, and applying finish. I built a platform for short people. Many kids come with their parents. They have all loved it! Some have been old turners who came for remedial skew lessons or to learn to make something special.

I've turned many things but I think I love teaching as much or more than making things. Perhaps it's a deep desire to share and add a tiny bit of something new to another's life. I taught kindergarten SS classes every week for 27 years, large groups of 50 or so kids, some piano and guitar, wood and pumpkin carving, llama/horse care, cleaning stalls, gardening, caring for baby peacocks, even how to clean and prepare a chicken for the freezer - many kids have NO idea of where their food comes from. ("Where are the nuggets on a chicken?") A couple of young boys came for a day who had never before walked on grass or on a trail through the woods! Teens may get to drive the tractor, 4-wheelers, even the excavator or something. They all go home with a new life experience.

I know several others who also love to teach woodturning. The mentoring program in our club is a big help since it provides contacts and insurance. I am slowing down a bit now with health and age (75) but still teach in the shop and do club demos.

To me there is no joy like helping put a smile on someone's face!

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JKJ
 
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There are no turning clubs or anything similar anywhere near me, so I have never taught in that environment. In Canada, we have an interprovincial system called the Red Seal program, where you can become a certified journeyperson in a range of trades.... I'm a Red Seal cabinetmaker. Also have a provincial journeyman ticket as an Industrial Woodworker. I taught in a two-year college diploma cabinetmaking program for thirteen years or so, and taught every student who went through basic woodturning. Some caught the bug and went on to become good turners. When that program closed, I moved to teaching adult high school within the same college, and ran a local Habitat for Humanity Chapter for eight years, doing a lot of carpentry teaching. I also teach some basic measurement skills to a program that helps women get in to trades. I love teaching, and my students seem to think I am good at it.... I'm probably a better teacher than craftsman.
 
I do not like taking on totally new turners. Not much experience with some one who knows nothing. I do find it easier to relate to some who has some experience because it is easier for me to coach slight adjustments to technique. I have done a lot of demos, mostly locally. If you are headed back down here to the lower 48 again this summer, plan to stop by for a bit.

robo hippy
 
I do not like taking on totally new turners. Not much experience with some one who knows nothing. I do find it easier to relate to some who has some experience because it is easier for me to coach slight adjustments to technique. I have done a lot of demos, mostly locally. If you are headed back down here to the lower 48 again this summer, plan to stop by for a bit.

robo hippy
I hope to, though I have a lot to do with graduation and going to college, in addition to a trip my grandfather wants to take my family on internationally. I have been keeping an eye out when cutting blanks for something with no defects. Though it's too early to confirm I'll get down there.

My dad and I started at the same time, I'm a kid and can't afford a lathe on my own, so I encouraged him to get one and we'll turn together. It worked out, though he is busy and needs to balance the rest of the family, so I am a bit more experienced than him now. Maybe it's also that there is a stage when kids think they always know better than their parents, but I tend to "teach" him a bit. Otherwise, everyone at the school I teach usually doesn't know the basics of woodworking in general, so it's a bit tricky.
 
Many students come for multiple lessons, some for a year or more. My method of teaching is different from most - I never start with bowls or pens. I mount a smoothly rounded cylinder of maple on the lathe, maybe 12"x2", give initial instruction on tool placement, hand them a shaving-sharp 1" skew chisel, and turn the lathe by hand. I watch every move, correcting tool presentation, angles, arm/leg movement, until they can consistently make delicate shavings down the cylinder. This takes surprisingly little time, 5-15 minutes for most people. When they conquer the shavings, I turn the lathe on the slowest speed and they practice planing cuts, then inch up the speed - in a very short time they are planing with the skew at high speed (it's actually easier that way). Next, I teach v-grooves with the skew, start on coves with the spindle gouge, then eventually
That is a very good idea, part of the reason I asked about teaching is because a classmate approached me last week and asked about turning, so I will show him this week. He seems fairly capable and has been taught some carving by another community member, so it may be a little less painful than some of the other people I have taught. But I also could have a week to teach him, meaning I can be more thorough. I may steal this approach, or a variation of it. It seems people when they want to turn, don't want to come home at the end of the day with a spindle with grooves in it, they want a big shiny bowl. If I have more than a day, I hope I can get the basics across before starting something nice.
 
No interest in teaching.

New turners (including myself 43 years ago) only have interest in following the herd. Because of this, I had to un-learn a few things over the years.

It took me a long time to figure out that turners fifty years ago had everything they needed to produce top quality turnings.....all they needed is to learn how to use basic tools and methods to their potential.....and understand there are no silver bullets. New turners don't want to hear that.....instead they want to throw money and effort into where the herd is, rather than where it was.

The real advantages to woodturners ended with the advent of woodturning chucks and M2 steels.....the rest is up to you! Real useful knowledge is still gained the old-fashioned way, believe it or not. (Time in the saddle, and observe and learn.)

Please excuse the rant, but at this stage of my life, all I'm interested in is to become the best I can be while doing what my grandpa would have done back then.

=o=
I don't think I want to be a shop teacher, however, if someone asks, I will show. I agree that nothing can replace learning through trial and error, but most people don't know what turning is, or what a lathe is. Maybe if I can show people enough for them to want to learn, I won't have to do too much teaching.

as for chasing the herd, I am guilty, I have some carbide tools and exotic wood. I think the herd today likes epoxy, carbide, and/or exotic woods. When I first got a lathe, I went to Woodcraft, and bought a dozen bright colorful 4x4x2 exotic "bowl blanks". I still have them. I know I have to be careful talking about the problems with exotic woods with you, considering what I have seen of your work, however, I think that it is appealing to a beginner, a shiny padauk bowl, or pink ivory, bloodwood, or purpleheart. Looking through social media accounts, I hear the idea of letting the wood speak for the piece, meaning that the bowl will have a bland design, but the wood will be bright and shiny until it fades.

I still don't understand fully how people got into a hobby 20+ years ago. My whole life everything I heard about was from the internet. I wanted to know more, I looked up some videos. That is how I learned about woodturning, and I wouldn't know about it if not for the Internet. 43 years ago, how did anyone learn about these things? To a degree, I envy the knowledge you must have acquired from your own experience, styles, and techniques. Everything I do, or can even think of came from somebody else on the internet. To a degree, I would imagine a whole generation has lost the ability to be unique or original because there are millions of existing examples to choose from.
 
Everything I do, or can even think of came from somebody else on the internet.

One danger - although there are lots of excellent videos, there are some bad youtube videos out there. Some are by inexpert turners, some dumb, some dangerous. How will a new turner know? Better were the old VHS tapes and later, DVDs that good turners produced.
One of the resources of the AAW is a video library with each video vetted for safety and content. And lots of articles and such. For those interested in starting out, joining the AAW might be a good step.

As I mentioned above, I learned most of my turning from books, these two:
Turning Wood by RIchard Raffan
Fundamentals of Woodturning by Mike Darlow
I think both authors are excellent. Both explain things well, discuss the tools in detail, have good exercises - everything organized logically.

And before that, when I got my first lathe, the worst lathe in the world (a copy of the old Craftsman single-tube lathe), it had one big redeeming asset - the lathe manual had a woodturning course in the back! It showed how to use various the tools, how to mount things on the lathe, about smoothing and finishing. No color pictures, of course. With that manual and a set of inexpensive Craftsman HSS tools I got turned the spindle I bought the lathe for, and later turned a bowl out of glued-up red oak boards. (I had no idea how to get useful turning wood then.) I was hooked and ran out and bought a Jet1642.

Good videos are great, but to put all the information in one book into a video you might need 50 hours of video!
Also, I like to write in the margins, highlight passages, and put tabs on pages. Can copy a page and tack it up in the shop. I even buy extra copies of these books when I can find them cheap and loan them to interested students.

Also, people learned from books way before there were any videos. I have some old woodturning books, from the '40s and '60s. And some turnings done 100s of years ago are amazing.

JKJ
 
29 years ago, I started turning on that same piece of absolute junk Sears Craftsman monotube lathe (I actually destroyed one tube- a catch stressed the riveted key on the bottom of the tube, Sears sent out a new one under warranty). I had a pine 2x2 on the lathe, a make-believe Sears gouge in one hand (what is this sharp edge thing people talk about?), and a library-loaned Ernie Conover book in the other. What brought me to that point was my love of fancy pens, and then I found an ad in the back pages of Wood Magazine saying I could make pens with a lathe.

I was pretty certain I was the only person in the world turning wood. The internet (for the public) was in its infancy (still bottle fed, no teeth yet), and fellow woodturners found each other by dumb luck- walking through hardware stores, lumberyards, and craft fairs.

Isaac, you'll do well at Fairbanks, it will put you on a course for success in life, no matter what you do to make a living. Just don't forget to turn off the internet a few times a week and experience the actual, real world firsthand! Shaking hand with a person is WAY better than "friending" them on the internet. Best wishes to you!
 
College is expensive, so I am going where I will get the most aid, which is Fairbanks AK
You can get the best education at a cheap college, or the worst at an expensive one. It’s all about how YOU choose to spend your time and apply yourself. Any college will provide a structure for you to learn, some better than others, but in the end you’re the one that has to put the work in to learn.

Congratulations on your upcoming graduation. Good luck! And enjoy the beautiful environment around you in AK.
 
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I don't think I want to be a shop teacher, however, if someone asks, I will show. I agree that nothing can replace learning through trial and error, but most people don't know what turning is, or what a lathe is. Maybe if I can show people enough for them to want to learn, I won't have to do too much teaching.

as for chasing the herd, I am guilty, I have some carbide tools and exotic wood. I think the herd today likes epoxy, carbide, and/or exotic woods. When I first got a lathe, I went to Woodcraft, and bought a dozen bright colorful 4x4x2 exotic "bowl blanks". I still have them. I know I have to be careful talking about the problems with exotic woods with you, considering what I have seen of your work, however, I think that it is appealing to a beginner, a shiny padauk bowl, or pink ivory, bloodwood, or purpleheart. Looking through social media accounts, I hear the idea of letting the wood speak for the piece, meaning that the bowl will have a bland design, but the wood will be bright and shiny until it fades.

I still don't understand fully how people got into a hobby 20+ years ago. My whole life everything I heard about was from the internet. I wanted to know more, I looked up some videos. That is how I learned about woodturning, and I wouldn't know about it if not for the Internet. 43 years ago, how did anyone learn about these things? To a degree, I envy the knowledge you must have acquired from your own experience, styles, and techniques. Everything I do, or can even think of came from somebody else on the internet. To a degree, I would imagine a whole generation has lost the ability to be unique or original because there are millions of existing examples to choose from.
I would definitely not consider myself a teacher, but I do enjoy sharing my methods and works, whether that is at a small demo at the OVWG, magazine article, or just in person talking to another turner. I did not learn using the Internet or YouTube, so have hope, it can be done! The only way it can work is to keep all of the clubs in the US active in teaching younger turners, as well as bringing back shop in school. During my high school years, 2019 -2022, I went once every two weeks to learn with my teacher at our club. Structured lessons, private classes with other turners, and even email and Facetime help during covid all led to an "old fashioned" kind of learning, no outside help except from the club.
One other thing, books. Books are extremely useful in learning. Have a good collection, and the reliance on the Internet will decrease!
 
I still don't understand fully how people got into a hobby 20+ years ago. My whole life everything I heard about was from the internet. I wanted to know more, I looked up some videos. That is how I learned about woodturning, and I wouldn't know about it if not for the Internet. 43 years ago, how did anyone learn about these things? To a degree, I envy the knowledge you must have acquired from your own experience, styles, and techniques. Everything I do, or can even think of came from somebody else on the internet. To a degree, I would imagine a whole generation has lost the ability to be unique or original because there are millions of existing examples to choose from.
As others mentioned, things called books and magazines were used to learn before the internet. Before that it was through verbal communication and hand drawn pictures. There are buildings called "libraries", still in existence, that house those written works, as well as digital content today. Library books are typically organized using classification systems like the Dewey Decimal System or the Library of Congress system, which categorize books by subject and assign them specific call numbers for easy location. This organization helps users find related materials efficiently within the library. If not yet educated on these systems you may learn about them at college. Keep in mind people have been earning higher level university degrees long before digital content existed.

Necessity is the mother of invention, and a close 2nd is curiosity. While you have learned through copying others (which we all do initially) remaining curious, ie wanting to understand the why's and how's, and experimenting with "what if's", will continue to broaden your skills and knowledge, regardless of the subject.
 
29 years ago, I started turning on that same piece of absolute junk Sears Craftsman monotube lathe (I actually destroyed one tube- a catch stressed the riveted key on the bottom of the tube, Sears sent out a new one under warranty). I had a pine 2x2 on the lathe, a make-believe Sears gouge in one hand (what is this sharp edge thing people talk about?), and a library-loaned Ernie Conover book in the other. What brought me to that point was my love of fancy pens, and then I found an ad in the back pages of Wood Magazine saying I could make pens with a lathe.

I was pretty certain I was the only person in the world turning wood. The internet (for the public) was in its infancy (still bottle fed, no teeth yet), and fellow woodturners found each other by dumb luck- walking through hardware stores, lumberyards, and craft fairs.
Fantastic story!

I started turning when my son was in 1st year at the architect school at University of TN. They were each given a "workstation" table. I thought he could benefit from a tracing paper dispenser - since they were all ripping off ragged chunks from rolls. So I built a shelf unit with cubbyholes and space for a long cylinder for the paper.

I'd heard somewhere that a lathe could make a piece of wood round so I asked the guy at Home Depot "You got any lathes here?" He looked it up, laughed and got the lonely Ridgid (Craftsman clone) and stand down from a top shelf where it had been for years. I stopped at Sears to buy a small set of lathe tools, took it all home and with help from the lathe manual turned a piece of 2x2 round and made some wide support grooves for mounting on below a cubby shelf - fastened a length of angle iron below with a sharpened edge for tearing off the paper. Maybe it helped a tiny bit - he's an architect at a big firm now.

A months later I noticed the lathe gathering dust and thought "I'm gonna make me a bowl!". That's when I glued up layers of oak board to make a turning blank and fastened it to the faceplate. It was all so logical and easy! (Fortunately, the new tools were still sharp.) Even learned how to make a jam chuck to finish the bottom. The bowl might have been terrible but my sister cherished it!

As I said above, I was hooked and ordered a new 1642 from Woodcraft, got some books on turning, a chuck, and a few more tools. Before I learned to sharpen I paid a guy at Woodcraft to sharpen a few times. About that time I discovered the local woodturning club.

I moved that lathe twice to new shop space and used it for almost 25 years until I gave it to a friend recently. (I still use the old Sears tools today - I especially like the diamond parting tool.) I've introduced a lot of people to woodturning on that lathe - it's the one on the left in the first shop picture in message #10 above. Good clean fun!

The bad thing about that cheap tube lathe was it was the sloppy way the tailstock mounted on the tube. Well, that was just one of the bad things! I still have have the tracing paper dispenser rod hanging in my shop as a reminder. (On the wall behind the guy's head in the picture below.) Looking back, it was a big "turning" point. :)

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JKJ
 
I still don't understand fully how people got into a hobby 20+ years ago. My whole life everything I heard about was from the internet. I wanted to know more, I looked up some videos. That is how I learned about woodturning, and I wouldn't know about it if not for the Internet. 43 years ago, how did anyone learn about these things?
They used to have these things called "magazines" that you could get at a "book store". You could even have them send the magazines in the "mail". That same "store" also had "books" you could buy. You could also find these things at a "library" if you had a "branch" near you. ;)

Anyway, the internet is way better (assuming you can filter out the dumb and/or unsafe).

I built my first lathe in 1989, from plans in a 1987 issue of Wood Magazine. There was a Buying Guide in the back of the issue with places to write to for spindles etc. Snail mail - write a letter asking for what you want and include a check - they'd write back if there were errors or they needed more for shipping or whatever. Sometimes you could call and arrange the order before mailing in the check. I used to do that all the time, but can't imagine doing that now.
That lathe cost me around $400 (plus a few months gathering parts and building). Craftsman tools from Sears.
Unfortunately, I had to sell the small bench top metal lathe (a Delta from back when hearing "Delta" didn't make you cringe) that I inherited from Dad to fund the new lathe.

Most of my early turning instruction came from Richard Raffin's book and compilations of articles that Fine Woodworking published. I'd read Raffin's words, then go to the lathe and realize I had no idea what he was talking about. Nothing wrong with his writing, but I just had a hard time translating written word into action.
 
Books, periodicals (aka magazines), and personal experience from other turners.
For me, with internet not a thing yet, it was woodturning clubs. I was very fortunate to have two clubs in about a 35 mile radius from where I lived. One small one was in a back room of a local woodworking store, small and honestly more of a monthly sales pitch for what they sold, but that was ok as it was a place to go.
The other club was quite impressive and held at a member's place. A beautiful 40x50 shop with a restroom and a lower level that held his dust collection and other toys for his impressive estate.
This was a big club with demos every month, and brought in national turners 2-4 times a year. We used to carpool there and that was fun also. I have moved twice since, and one of the things I looked for when moving was if there was an assessable woodturning club in the near vicinity.
 
Love these stories!! Thank you for sharing! As Al, JKJ, and others point out, an important part of teaching is learning...just the act of teaching someone helps you recognize and learn new things that you missed before. It's hard to express the shear joy of watching the light go on in another's face when they "get it", even for just a moment. And teaching has another major benefit...it helps to grow and sustain our clubs. Our club demonstrates at local craft fairs where we promote our teaching activities. Each month we set up multiple mini-lathes, demonstrate a simple project with emphasis on safety, then spend several hours helping new turners to "dance". Some really take to it and become future leaders and teachers at the club!
 
Most of my early turning instruction came from Richard Raffin's book and

Another Raffan fan!! I love his writing - I think I have all his books now.

I also had the pleasure of meeting him at a nearby TN club demo once - he was gracious to autograph a couple of his books I brought with me!

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Richard is yet another expert who agrees with learning spindle turning first - will teach the fine tool control that will let you turn anything.

JKJ
 
Our club demonstrates at local craft fairs where we promote our teaching activities.

Good for you (and your club!)

I haven't done that but I have a Jet mini I sometimes haul around to schools, churches, and other places to give people an idea of what it's about. Who knows, maybe someone will get started some day.

My favorite time was when I set up and turned "magic" wands out in front of a book store during a couple of Harry Potter book releases. (Secret: the magic is in the turning, not the wand!) Kids would pick out a blank I prepared ahead of time, pick a handle style, then step back and watch while I turned quickly, sanded lightly, and applied some friction polish. Still, some waited three hours to get one made! Some parents made arrangements to come to the shop for a more leisurely, personal experience. My son set up a table and sold wands I'd spent a lot of time on at home - some were ebony, cocobolo, osage orange, olive, etc.

The first year I had to talk the store into it - the next year people were calling asking when the wandmaker would be back!

I wore my farmer overalls and Hogwarts Sorting Hat.

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JKJ
 
For me this started 65 years ago, as our St Nicolas gift giving to another one of my siblings was to draw a ticket and then look of what this person had on his/her "like to get list", well my sister that I had to get a gift for, liked to get a salad bowl, and I figured I could get one for her, the rude awakening as it turned out it would cost me a full weeks salary :oops: !! , that wasn't going to happen of course, so I choose something else for her.

So how hard was it to turn a wooden bowl ??, I knew how to turn metal and wood should be much easier I figured, wrong !!

Found a good size block of wood (probably was Cedar or cheap Mahogany), anyway I welded a disk to a taper and turned that round and flat, drilled a bunch of holes and screwed the wood to it.

As I had never seen anyone turn wood or knew anyone that turned wood, but for the wheelwright that did rough turn the large wheel hubs, and not on a lathe so no help there.

Tried a metal turning tool to turn with, that did not work to good, as there wasn't anybody that turned wooden bowls or even turn wood ( found out later there was a cabinet maker that did turn spindles) he used flat chisels (skew), so it was up to me to make a wood turning tool that would work for turning wood.

Already figured I needed a rest to hold the tool on so I that I could turn the curves, anyway it was a struggle to get a tool that would cut the wood and that I could hold doing that.

Imagine a flat steel bar that was to cut some soft wood, well the outcome was not a show piece for sure, it wend in the forge and burned nice.

I did not give up and kept getting better, found better wood (hard and dense) ground the steel in different angles and then sanded a lot to get a nicer surface.

Then I went to Canada and a new live and also a new metal turning lathe that I adapted to turn wood on, still have that and a couple smaller midi and mini lathes.

I found the new gouges that were being made and sold by Lee Valley, boy what a difference, got a couple of books from Peter Child, Mike Darlow, Richard Raffan and some more later like Michael O'Donnell.

Then the internet and communications with other turners that also like turning wood like I do

I DID IT MY WAY !!

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They used to have these things called "magazines" that you could get at a "book store". You could even have them send the magazines in the "mail". That same "store" also had "books" you could buy. You could also find these things at a "library" if you had a "branch" near you. ;)

Anyway, the internet is way better (assuming you can filter out the dumb and/or unsafe).

I built my first lathe in 1989, from plans in a 1987 issue of Wood Magazine. There was a Buying Guide in the back of the issue with places to write to for spindles etc. Snail mail - write a letter asking for what you want and include a check - they'd write back if there were errors or they needed more for shipping or whatever. Sometimes you could call and arrange the order before mailing in the check. I used to do that all the time, but can't imagine doing that now.
That lathe cost me around $400 (plus a few months gathering parts and building). Craftsman tools from Sears.
Unfortunately, I had to sell the small bench top metal lathe (a Delta from back when hearing "Delta" didn't make you cringe) that I inherited from Dad to fund the new lathe.

Most of my early turning instruction came from Richard Raffin's book and compilations of articles that Fine Woodworking published. I'd read Raffin's words, then go to the lathe and realize I had no idea what he was talking about. Nothing wrong with his writing, but I just had a hard time translating written word into action.
I found his Youtube videos very helpful, now I also have a DVD and book.
 
Just curious what new local woods you might encounter. Not gonna happen in Fairbanks, though.
Black spruce and birch to the arctic tundra. Spruce is knarled and soft, maybe I can turn something out of birch? Fairbanks has 10 times the population of my town, so perhaps some ornamentals. I can work with small pieces.
 
Black spruce and birch to the arctic tundra. Spruce is knarled and soft, maybe I can turn something out of birch? Fairbanks has 10 times the population of my town, so perhaps some ornamentals. I can work with small pieces.
Birch doesn't have a lot of beauty but is easy to turn and can be used for many utility items. The scandinavian countries used birch for many household items such as bowls and containers as in shrink boxes.
Shrink boxes are done best with birch and a 6" diameter tree can get you a 5" diameter finished box. The process is to take a live fresh cut tree and turn a round cylinder from the outer sap wood then on the inside at what is to be the bottom make a groove to receive the bottom similar to a barrel end. The bottom is made from dry flat stock at a diameter smaller than the measured groove diameter than while the cylinder is still wet it is put into the groove and left to dry and cylinder will shrink to make a water tight seal without any glue. There is a craft school on the north shore of Lake Superior that did or maybe still does have classes for doing it , but my aged brain has failed me so I don't remember the name of the school or the instructor.
These are some of the items I have made from birch.

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My high school was a technical school, half the day in learning a trade and the other half normal schooling. In 9th grade I got general shop where you got a taste of everything offered. There was a lathe in that classroom but the teacher (a retired motorcycle cop) would not let anybody touch it. I chose electronics so I never did get to try out a lathe. I have noticed here and at the WoW site many folks talk about their first turning opportunities were in school. It truly is a shame that most of these type schools turned away from this type of learning. So much emphasis on college and so many trade jobs go longing for workers. I guess we can just be thankful that the handfuls of turners that were so serious about turning started clubs and shared their knowledge fully and freely. Do not know of other interests that operate with that full and free sharing of knowledge.
 
Bill, my high school woodshop classes were the same- every power tool (and nearly NO hand tools) were mastered, but nobody go near that lathe. It's fine to put a 15 or 16yo on a table saw or spindle shaper, but stay away from the lathe?

Sadly, a majority of true shop classes are gone- wood, metals, engines, const. trades- and "industrial arts" is now peaked at 3D printing. So little education still exists that combines the brain AND the body. We don't even have teachers for it anymore, nor an ability to teach teachers.

I think a fantastic way to bring back woodshop is a program that does not have powered machinery, not even battery tools. Hand tools only, the way we did it for thousands of years. That will bring the brain and body together in learning harmony. Here's the textbook for the class. Heck, everyone here should own this book, printed or pdf.
 
fellow woodturners found each other by dumb luck- walking through hardware stores, lumberyards,

An isolated woodturner found me that way about 10 years ago. I had driven to a lumber supply in a more rural area wearing a WoodCentral shirt. An employee stopped and asked me about it. He had no idea there were other woodturners in the area.

JKJ
 
Birch doesn't have a lot of beauty but is easy to turn and can be used for many utility items. The scandinavian countries used birch for many household items such as bowls and containers as in shrink boxes.
Shrink boxes are done best with birch and a 6" diameter tree can get you a 5" diameter finished box. The process is to take a live fresh cut tree and turn a round cylinder from the outer sap wood then on the inside at what is to be the bottom make a groove to receive the bottom similar to a barrel end. The bottom is made from dry flat stock at a diameter smaller than the measured groove diameter than while the cylinder is still wet it is put into the groove and left to dry and cylinder will shrink to make a water tight seal without any glue. There is a craft school on the north shore of Lake Superior that did or maybe still does have classes for doing it , but my aged brain has failed me so I don't remember the name of the school or the instructor.
These are some of the items I have made from birch.

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That would be Jim Sannerud, at the North House Folk School. https://northhouse.org/instructors/jim-sannerud
 
That would be Jim Sannerud, at the North House Folk School. https://northhouse.org/instructors/jim-sannerud
That is the one!
I knew Jim from the Minnesota Woodturners Association before I moved out of the metro area in 2006 and I believe he was originally from Moorhead MN. I don't remember the exact year but we had a joint demo at the Mindak club in moorhead and the MN Lakes Turners, that is where I was introduced to the shrink box. Jim taught the traditional method that didn't use a lathe and they were usually oval. It was later that he moved to the north shore and began at North House.
 
If there had been shop classes at my high school, they would have been some thing besides PE that I would have gotten straight A's in! That and a local high school offers radio broadcasting, which would have been another straight A class!

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