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starting a bowl

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when starting a bowl is there any advantage to which way the center of the tree was????????? should the part that was closest to the pith be the top of the bowl or the bottom of the bowl be closest to the bark???????? 😕 does it make a differance where the knots are?????
 
Advantage in size on most logs to putting the heart up, of course. Additional advantage in that knots originate at the heart, so if you don't want them, you can run the cut through the middle of the old branch as you run it through the center of the log. You also want to watch the direction of growth on the tree, so that you can avoid the branches which angled upward by chosing your crosscuts carefully. Other factors, if knots aren't, are the moisture load in one lying for a while, and heart checks, which are common in woods like cherry and soft maple.

With the heart up, you'll want to leave the first few years behind. That's because the curvature of the annual rings causes greater proportional distortion when drying, sometimes resulting in splits from the heart into the walls of the piece. With the heart up, you can expect the sides to drop pretty much to the averages listed for the species under radial shrinkage. The tangential is going to be much less than the average listed unless you leave a very broad bottom, because there's less continuous wood. Makes another good reason to taper to the bottom, as is also faster drying with water lost ten times faster out the open end grain than diffusing through face grain.

If you have large trees, as urban folks can find, you may elect to put the heart down at the bottom, but you get a couple of bad things for the good of not having dark blotches on the rim. First, you get greater stress from the smaller radii of the annual rings near the bottom, which can sometimes pull the whole thing out of whack so far you can't get back to round with a thinner rough. Second thing you get is pick-out as you cut down inside the bowl. It's fairly easily controlled, but can be annoying if it happens in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
I agree with Kurt. Not only does Bill's video show you the basics of bowls, he also shows you how to prepare the blank from the log. It's well worth it.
 
I have processed a lot of bowls. Almost all of them are pith (heart) side up. As Michael said, you want to get rid of some of that pith - since the pith is basically a cracking machine.

Also with the pith side up on smaller logs you will get a larger bowl because of the shape of the log. So from that perspective it is more efficient. Pretty much the same as Michael said.

One reason to go the other route, with the heart/pith at the bottom is if there is a lot of character that you want to capture. You might consider making a platter instead of a bowl if you want to see that different color heart-wood in your piece.
 
scrapbook

the handout from dallas woodturners is great, thank you for sharing rbabbittjr, it made my scrapbook 😀 😀 😀
 
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I would like to recommend John Jordan's video on wood movement and the Aesthetics of wood. He explains why and how you would want to mount the wood on the lathe in which orientation and what happens during the drying stages concerning warp and wood movement. He shows some excellent examples of using the sapwood layers for contrast in the design of the piece.
 
Impressive handout, OK if I share it with our AAW chapter at a future meeting? I think it answers all the questions and even gave me some new ideas on placement of turnings.
 
http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/fplgtr/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm Has an excellent illustration in chapter three, figures 1 and 3, though the entire is eminently readable.

I forgot to mention it, and no one else has, but you also choose your orientation to show different ring presentations. Bark up narrows, heart up widens the annual rings. Then you can also use them in their entirety as in the third picture.
 

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chapter 12

chapter 12 brings up the topic of drying and kilms
 
I first saw this handout at a meeting of our Channel Islands Woodturners. I don't know where the Dallas Woodturners got theirs. I dont't know if you need my permission to share it. It would be interesting to know who the originator is.
 
channel island

where are the channel island woodturners??? St Larwance ??? off France???
am i in the ball park where these people are???? 😀 😀 😀
 
Jeff Jilg said:
If someone can establish who the original author was, and get permission, then I can post it as a permanent document here.

Jeff,

This link was posted over on Wood Central too. I stated that it looked just like the one that Todd Hoyer handed out at a demo I attended several years ago. I do believe that he is the original source.

Dave
 
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