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Photo of the Day Gallery - comments

Steve Worcester

Steve Worcester

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We have had some people suggest that we setup a separate gallery for photo of the day. The way the software works is it would be completely separate, the image still under the original poster, but if you looked at your gallery, it would not show under Members Gallery, only if you showed ALL MEMBERS PHOTOS. (Or something similar), then their photos in the POD gallery would also show.

Does anyone see this as an inconvenience? Granted, the moderators would have to manually move them, which could take quite a while.
 
Couldn't you just create a new "member" gallery for a "member" named "Picture Of The Day" or something. You could just put a copy of the Picture of the Day into that gallery and still leave it in the creators gallery.

That would mean that each picture of the day would be stored twice, but it might be easier for the members to work with.

Ed
 
I kinda like the way it is set up now. I like the fact that I can click on the picture of the day and it takes me to not only the photo that was selected but also to the album of the creator of the POD piece so that I can see the entire body of work created by that person.

I would have no objection to a separate album for just the picture of the day selections but I would hate to lose access to seeing all the other work done by those selected.
 
Steve Worcester said:
Does anyone see this as an inconvenience? Granted, the moderators would have to manually move them, which could take quite a while.
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Unless I'm missing something, yes I see it as an inconvenience for both the viewers and the moderators. In the current structure, the POD is identified via the home page ( https://www.woodturner.org/ ). I (and probably a few others) have bookmarks for both the home page and the forum, and only occasionally visit the home page. If there's a way to flag the forum index page of member gallery pictures, it could provide more direct access. Might be as simple (ha!) as changing the wording to e.g. "POD by Ken Vonk" or if such is cumbersome, "by Ken Vonk POD." Regular viewers should quickly figure out what "POD" means, and leaving that POD could stay with the attribution, even though a later POD would supersede it.

[In retrospect, I appreciate that "by" is a single entity, and "Ken Vonk" likely is derived as a constant from the Members List so adding "POD" would propagate to all his entries; the same as all components of user profiles. Note I included "(ha!)" above, so I know it isn't really simple.]

Joe
 
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Ed_McDonnell said:
Couldn't you just create a new "member" gallery for a "member" named "Picture Of The Day" or something. You could just put a copy of the Picture of the Day into that gallery and still leave it in the creators gallery.

That would mean that each picture of the day would be stored twice, but it might be easier for the members to work with.

Ed
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Software doesn't support copy, just move.
 
Joe Greiner said:
Unless I'm missing something, yes I see it as an inconvenience for both the viewers and the moderators. In the current structure, the POD is identified via the home page ( https://www.woodturner.org/ ). I (and probably a few others) have bookmarks for both the home page and the forum, and only occasionally visit the home page. If there's a way to flag the forum index page of member gallery pictures, it could provide more direct access. Might be as simple (ha!) as changing the wording to e.g. "POD by Ken Vonk" or if such is cumbersome, "by Ken Vonk POD." Regular viewers should quickly figure out what "POD" means, and leaving that POD could stay with the attribution, even though a later POD would supersede it.
Joe
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The display of the photo on the home page would not change and is not affected. The thought is to allow people to browse all the PODs in a single gallery at their leisure.
 
In my opinion, it's not worth it unless everything points back to the original image with all it's comments instead of a copy without them.

If it were possible to have an album of POD choices showing thumbnails that linked to each original posting, rather than duplicating each one and putting them in a seperate album then I would say it's a good idea. I looked into this a while back and couldn't find a way using the Gallery software's interface.

The closest thing I found was adding my choices to my Favorites album, but no one else can see that. Maybe that page of thumbnails could be saved as HTML and added as a static page using the Forum software interface after each new choice. That would be a pain in the butt since some of the links would have to be edited in the source each time.
 
With the search function, members can do a gallery search on the comment field for the words "Picture Of The Day" and they will then get to see all the pictures of the day. At least all the ones selected by Ken since he always adds a comment with the words "Picture Of The Day".

They even show up in chronological order. This would work as long as whoever selects the POD keeps adding a comment with the search key. Doesn't require any extra work by anybody maintaining the site. Requires members to be able to do a search which may or many not be too much to expect.

Sadly POD is not a good search key. Lots of people turning pods and making seed pods, most of which didn't make POD.

Ed
 
Just an RSS feed?

I am not apposed to the idea but for me the most productive approach would be to just to provide an RSS feed to pictures of the day.

I monitor and participate in the AAW Forum "way more" since we got a feed to it.

I monitor 100's of sites every day through feeds rather than bookmarking and looking through the site.

I would like to just have a feed each day for the photo of the day. With this approach you don't have to create copies just feeds that link to the particular picture. Then it will show up in my reader and I can decide if I want to dig deeper through the gallery.
 
This doesn't solve the immediate objective, but upon further reflection, it occurs to me that PODs could be flagged in the gallery by embedding appropriate text in the pictures themselves. Most image manipulation software has such capability built in. And most pictures have sufficient margins around the turned piece for embedded text.

I agree that "POD" is not a good search key. To search for "picture of the day" seems like a long string to enter in the search field. But an easy way to get it is to retrieve it from a Sticky of instructions; highlight, copy, and then paste into the search field. I think most members are capable of doing a search. Many of us wouldn't have found this and other forums without Google.

Joe
 
Insert rss on homepage?

Turnedoutright said:
I am not apposed to the idea but for me the most productive approach would be to just to provide an RSS feed to pictures of the day.
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On a few sites I run, I have inserted a small script on the home page that is actually an rss feed so that the site's upcoming calendar entries appear on the home page.

As far as changing the way thing work, I'd say maybe improve the visibility a bit. Can an Admin feature add a field to each photo record called POD? If an admin checks it, then people could search on the POD field to find all of them. I have seen that you make a comment when you make a photo a pod.

Curious, is a member notified if one of their pieces is selected?
 
Here is an example of what I am talking about.
I have created a new gallery and taken one of my own photos and put it into that gallery. You can do searches on Steve Worcester and see what is what.
 
Steve,
I am not sure I understand this. Went to the photo galleries and did a search for your name using the Photo of the Day category in the search with your name. Several photos of your work came up from your gallery. Did the same for my gallery with photo of the day and all of mine came up as well. Guess I am not in tune with this. Bill
 
I got results similar to Bill's.

I think we're underestimating the power of the software, and members' abilities to browse. The software may not support copy, but it surely supports pseudo-copy. How else could the Random Images be generated on Gallery pages?

Most, if not all, text entries can include embedded links, as presented in the recent contest results ( http://www.aawforum.org/vbforum/showthread.php?t=5045 ). Depending on the software's version, links may also be exhibited as thumbnails. I'll try to assemble an example for tomorrow. This is a test:

http://www.aawforum.org/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=4846

{Well, at least it didn't crash.}

Joe
 
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Joe Greiner said:
I got results similar to Bill's.

I think we're underestimating the power of the software, and members' abilities to browse. The software may not support copy, but it surely supports pseudo-copy. How else could the Random Images be generated on Gallery pages?

Most, if not all, text entries can include embedded links, as presented in the recent contest results ( http://www.aawforum.org/vbforum/showthread.php?t=5045 ). Depending on the software's version, links may also be exhibited as thumbnails. I'll try to assemble an example for tomorrow. This is a test:

http://www.aawforum.org/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=4846

{Well, at least it didn't crash.}

Joe
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The photo gallery is a different piece of software that runs connected to the forum software.

The photo of the day on the AAW homepage is a fully manual task, where Ken and Kurt email a link to Ed and he updates the link in the page. Ugly, but it works.
 
Bill Pottorf said:
Steve,
I am not sure I understand this. Went to the photo galleries and did a search for your name using the Photo of the Day category in the search with your name. Several photos of your work came up from your gallery. Did the same for my gallery with photo of the day and all of mine came up as well. Guess I am not in tune with this. Bill
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The photo I moved does not have photo of the day in the comments. The example was to show how individual users would have a photo in one of two different top level galleries. To put it into the photo of the day gallery, the moderator goes in and physically (sort of) moves it and it doesn't show under the MEMBERS GALLERY if you search, it would show up in the PHOTO OF THE DAY gallery or in all photos of that member.
 
The example I had in mind isn't consistent with your better explanation of the proposed gallery. Consider it dead.

And my suggestion of embedded text in gallery photos isn't so hot either. If the home page POD were linked to the gallery somehow, or to a POD gallery, it'd be a major distraction.

Steve, please take the last or future word on this. I apologize for the distraction.

Joe
 
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