Oneway Vs Stubby

[Jeff L]

I am going to buy one of the following Lathes, Oneway 2436 or Stubby. would like to have some feed back on which one you would buy or own, and why? Thanks Jeff

 

[Barbara Gill]

I went through that decision making process several years ago except it was between the Oneway 1640 and Stubby. There were several reasons I chose Oneway. First, I have always found Canadian made equipment to be of the highest quality. I knew that I would want to do hollow forms and the bed of the Stubby was not long enough to use the captured systems without modification. I like the versitility of the long bed on the Oneway. One of the main decision makers was that after joining a Stubby users news group I realized that around 75% of the posts were about modifying the Stubby. I made that last comment on another forum. At first I was corrected by some staunch Stubby users but before the thread had ended they had started discussing ways to lengthen the bed so it would be easier to use a captured system.
I love my Oneway 1640; I never have regretted my decision.

 

[jimwtolly]

IHO: Get the Oneway 2436, get the 3Hp motor if you plan on doing much coreing with the Easycore system. I have a 2Hp and love it!!!!
Took me 6 years of doing craft shows to get the $,$$$.$$ up front, but I am not sorry that I waited.

 

[Mark Mandell]

Stubby Rules!

Jeff,

I will, notwithstanding Barbara's experience, disagree with her. Hollow forms on a Stubby [I have an s1000] could not be easier, and no lathe made today will give you the adapability for doing such forms that the Stubby, with its rotating/sliding bed, will provide. There are several photos on the Stubby website that bear this out and John Jordan, the originater of the Stubby's now-standard "short" bed, uses a captured system for hollow forms on his Stubby s750. See pic below.

Take a look at http://www.stubbylatheusa.com/cgi-bin/index.py and click on the photos sectiion. While you're there, click on the other sections for detailed specs on the s750. The s1000 has a 20" swing over the bed, and 40+" over the base. All Stubby lathes use the same headstock/motor unit, so the only difference in the machines are the bases which change the swing capacity, and the s1000 has an integrated base unit.

Barb is correct that a number of Stubby-owners have worked up a special mounting plate so that they can mount the included 10" auxilliary bed to the end of their main bed to be able to turn up to 46" between centers. Since the Stubby will turn 35" between centers in "stock" configuration, such modification is unnecessary for most turning including using a captured boring bar system which I also use.

Since you mentioned a 24" swing, you can note also that Stubby has a new model out, the F600, which swings 24" but has a fixed bed. It was premiered at last year's Symposium in Kansas City, and will be at Louisville, I'm sure. It is a short-bed machine at a substantially reduced price without the massive turntable/sliding bed assembly, however a bed extension is, or will shortly be, available. If you would like to directly contact other Stubby owners, including those who worked out the bed extension, access the Group site with 5+ years of archives, issues, and photos, and make arrangements for a "test drive" on a Stubby in your area, there is also a direct e-mail link to the Group coordinator on the website to add you to the Group.

Come on over to the Dark Side 😉 , the turning's fine, and the chips get deep indeed!

Mark

 

[hockenbery]

Both are excellent machines.
I have a Oneway 2436 and I reccomend it highly.

I have done demos on several Stubbies including using a capturered hollowing system(jamieson handle with backrest). The bed slides back far enough for a anything you can hollow with a 3/4 inch bar.

You should try to get some time on each machine.

You will find strong advocates for both machines. The most important thing is what you want and like about the respective machines. I prefer the Oneway.
If I had a Space issue I would get a Stubby in a heartbeat.

While the closed up Stubby is a shortbed machine. I much prefer turning with a 17 inch bed on the outboard side of the Oneway to working on the end of the stubby. I can get in closer to the work on the Oneway (there are no legs under the bed)

I would give a slight + to the Oneway support. If you have to get a part or advice from the manufacturer you can call oneway and get a delivery in a few days. Stubby dealers can fix most issues for you but if you have to go to the manufacture it will be a bit longer than dealing with Oneway.

They are both top of the line machines. You will have to look hard to find an unhappy owner of either machine.
you will be happy with either machine.

happy turning,
Al

 

[Hugh]

I have to agree with Al. I think you should try both machines before you make the decission. Both the Oneway 2436 and the Stubby are great lathes. I picked up a 2436 at the Pasadena symposium - and have enjoyed it ever since. I turned on both lathes at Arrowmont before I made the major purchase. I found that on the Stubby I hit my knuckles while trying to adjust things on occassion. But I think that was due to the fact that I had not used the machine too much. You would be happy with either one. Get as much hp as you can afford, and if you get the Oneway - get the 17" extension with an extra banjo for the outboard for hollowing if you do not use a captive system. Also - if you get the Oneway - get the radio freq. part. The first time I turned my lathe on in the garage, my wife had the TV on in the house and it created a bunch of static on the TV. (I did not get a good reaction from that.) Also get the remote on/off. If you have saved up this much money - get all the bells and whistles. Let us know what you decide - and why.
Good luck.
Hugh

 

[georgetroy]

Also take a look at the Robust

I have a Robust Made in America 18"x28". A great machine. I also have a Vicmarc short bed 300. I would replace that machine with the Robust 25X28 as good as the Vicmarc is. You have features on the Robust you can not get anyplace else. I agree that the Stubby and Oneway are good machines glad to see you looking at these instead of the China stuff. Listing the web site for the Robust. GT
http://www.turnrobust.com/

 

[Mark Mandell]

Ha!!

I have a Robust Made in America 18"x28". A great machine. I also have a Vicmarc short bed 300. I would replace that machine with the Robust 25X28 as good as the Vicmarc is. You have features on the Robust you can not get anyplace else. I agree that the Stubby and Oneway are good machines glad to see you looking at these instead of the China stuff. Listing the web site for the Robust. GT
http://www.turnrobust.com/

I was waiting for you to jump in on this one, George 😀 😀

Jeff, it's a good suggestion. I was impressed with the Robust at KC even though I'd have no use for that tailstock thingy.

M

 

[Jeff Jilg]

Mark - I was glad to see the picture with the shavings all over it (and the in-progress wall hanging walnut piece). Sometimes people post pics of just their cleanup machine.

 

[Mark Mandell]

Whoa

Mark - I was glad to see the picture with the shavings all over it (and the in-progress wall hanging walnut piece). Sometimes people post pics of just their cleanup machine.

VERY GOOD EYE there, Jeff! Yes, that was, indeed, the roughout session that produced my wall piece. I did two that day, but the other one is still waiting final turning. See, you're not the only one with a roughout inventory.

Just got in a walnut crotch that will be about 38" "across the corners" and 20" wide. That'll about max out my Stubby if I can get 3 men and a boy to hump it down to the shop and then hold on whilst "we" get it up on the lathe. I have my overhead winch down because I'm putting in an upgrade on my DC system . . . 🙂

M

 

[Jeff L]

Thanks for all the great in put. I will keep checking back for more info.

I live just outside of St. Louis MO., and a member of the Show-Me Woodturners Club. Another member is setting up a chance for me to turn on a 2436 Oneway 3hp. Will have to get a hold of Bill (a Stubby rep) about turning on a Stubby.

Mark that picture with all the shavings is insane; its great, would like to have it for my desk top.



http://www.showmewoodturners.741.com/

 

[Mark Mandell]

Thanks for all the great in put. I will keep checking back for more info.

I live just outside of St. Louis MO., and a member of the Show-Me Woodturners Club. Another member is setting up a chance for me to turn on a 2436 Oneway 3hp. Will have to get a hold of Bill (a Stubby rep) about turning on a Stubby.

Mark that picture with all the shavings is insane; its great, would like to have it for my desk top.

Jeff,

You are fortunate indeed because the "Bill" you speak of is Bill Rubinstein, the exclusive US Importer of all Stubby lathes. A bit more than a "rep." 😀

Bill's traveling Down-Under, but is supposed to be back in a few weeks I think. Since you're in his back yard (or he yours), getting a first rate Stubby demo will be a cinch!

PM me your e-mail address. You have more than dial-up available?

M

 

[Barbara Gill]

Mark and others. I am sorry for giving what seems to be incorrect information. It was based on posts and e-mails several years ago when I was looking at the Stubby 750. There was a hugh thread on one of the forums about ways the bed could be extended so that a captured system could be used. Because I was not into lathe modification it became an important influence on my decision.

 

[Mark Mandell]

Mark and others. I am sorry for giving what seems to be incorrect information. It was based on posts and e-mails several years ago when I was looking at the Stubby 750. There was a hugh thread on one of the forums about ways the bed could be extended so that a captured system could be used. Because I was not into lathe modification it became an important influence on my decision.

Barb,

Unnecessary 😉 I remember there was a lengthy exchange in The Stubby Group about end-mounting plates, brackets, templates and such to use the aux bed on the end of the ways. It was more about making a great lathe even better by making the extension a "user option" than it was about a "shortcoming" in the bed. Remember too, that most owers had opted for the John Jordan short bed which was actually 9" shorter than the original Stubby bed that would handle up to 45" between centers.

Mark

 

[Vernon Oberle]

2 cents worth

I was also looking at these two machines when I bought my 2436. Probably my biggest reason for chosing Oneway was the service. They have gone out of their way to make sure everything is right on all purchases not just the lathe. You can eight get answers to your questions either by phoning or using the forum on their website.

I also considered that if they quit importing Stubby's because of money rates or someother reason it could become hard to get parts (hopefully you never need any). Another consideration was that my old lathe was 1 1/4 x 8 spindle so I was afraid of needing to buy all new attachments, but by getting a spindle adapter and a morse #2 to #3 adapter I can still use everything I had. Oneway also included taper adapters for the stronghold and talon chucks so that made all my chucks except the supernova 2 native.

In short I have never been sorry with my choice, but also realizing the everyone must pick features they need (or want) based upon what pleases their eye and physically fits their size and the size of the shop.

Vernon

 

[AtSam]

Both are good!

Both lathes are great. I have turned on both also. If you have only a small area to work in then the Stubby wins hands down. If you have a larger area to work in then the choice becomes cloudy.

The Oneway I didn't have any issue with.

I didn't like haveing to move the movable bed to get things into position. This can be an advantage depending on what you turn. I also did not like the tool rest and banjo on the Stubby.

They both cost a lot of money so make sure you try them both out first before you lay your money down.

You will find that those that own Stubby will beat that drum and those that own Oneways will beat that drum. You will be happy with either as they are fine machines.

If I had to pick, I would make my decision on one fact only and that being Oneway is made in Canada. Truely made in Canada as all the parts are cut and welded in one factory. The only thing that is made somewhere else is the motor and controller. I live about three hours from the factory.

Should you ever wish to talk to the owners of Oneway it is not a problem as you just have to pick up the phone and call them.

 

[mkart]

Stubby

Jeff,
Bill returns in a week. He just set up his new warehouse and has both the S750 and F600 set up. We had a Ray Key workshop there a few weeks ago. I can tell you a workshop with 4 Stubbys and a Vicmarc VL300 is a great advantage. You don't have to deal with machine issues. I ordered a bare bones VL300 shortbed due to cost but would have opted for the S1000 if I could afford it. Try them out and consider what your doing today as well as whats on your mind for the future.

Matt

 

[Jeff L]

Stubby or Oneway?

Matt, I was at the Ray Key demo and someone had a stubby outside on a trailer that caught my eye (frist time seeing one). I will get hold of Bill when he returns to see one in action.

Also Thanks to all of you, for giving me your time and comments to help me learn more about these 2 lathes.

Jeff

 

[dkulze]

Gotta say, I just checked out the Robust site and it looks like Stubby and Oneway are gonna be getting some good competition. The stainless rails impress me, as does the rotating tailstock.

Dietrich

 

[Mark Mandell]

Questions

Gotta say, I just checked out the Robust site and it looks like Stubby and Oneway are gonna be getting some good competition. The stainless rails impress me, as does the rotating tailstock.

Dietrich

I spoke with the fellow at the trade show in KC about those two features. The rust-free bed-rails weren't important to me because some pitting and such on the bed-rails just helps the TS and tollholder clamp better. They do look nice and clean, however. The tailstock storage option will be very nice for people who work from one side of the lathe, and especially turners who don't want to or can't deal with moving a heavy tailstock on and off the ways. For me, however, it presented something to be tripping over because I work from both sides of the bed (and the end). 'Bout the last thing I need is punctures and torn jeans from backing into the TS live center point laying over on the side. 🙁 Machine was very well made with good welding and heavy stock. Can't say I'm a fan of placing the motor behind (as opposed to underneath) the headstock, but it's a solid configuration, and easy to access.