while observing sb at Virginia woodturning symposium, I discovered I was one tool away. I went home reground a 1/2 wide scraper to a negative rake scraper. worked pretty good, but really needed a bigger negative rake scraper, so talked to Doug Thompson, he is on the road right now, but when he gets a chance he will make me one up......I went ahead ordered and received an insert from Packard, and this morning made my tool handle for Doug Thompson's negative rake scraper