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Omega Lathes Stubby 1000

Emiliano Achaval

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I had a busy day today. I want to thank my good friend Wayne Omura for spending this exciting day with me helping me pick up and setting up my new Stubby 1000. My son used his Caterpillar 305 Mini Excavator to lift it out of the bed of my F350. I'm waiting for an electrician to change the plug. I want all 3 lathes in my shop with the same plug, right now I have 3 different ones... Some people think Omega lathes went out of business, I'm here to tell you they are up and running and Rod Caddeye, the owner, provides excellent customer service.
 

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Congratulations, Emiliano..... :D

I assume your intentions are to go big? What is the swing on that big beautiful lathe?

I couldn't sleep at night, knowing something like THAT were out in the shop! Ha,ha......:D

What are your other two lathes?

-----odie-----
 
Very nice. Don't forget to turn the tailstock crank handle around.
That's a story and a half! I stripped the little screw. Wayne also tried, but could not do it. He sent me to the most interesting man in Maui, LOL. A retired machinist. Howard Andrade, a Portugues man. I could not believe the giant metal lathes he has. All of them military surplus from Pearl Harbor, where he worked many years in the shipyards. I spent a very entertaining hour with him. Sadly he is the last machinist on the island, there is one more, but not dedicated to machining 100% He fixed my handle easily, charged me $20. Take a look at some of the lathes, he had about 7. He had the biggest floor drill presses I have ever seen too, looked to me they weigh several tonnes...
 

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Congratulations, Emiliano..... :D

I assume your intentions are to go big? What is the swing on that big beautiful lathe?

I couldn't sleep at night, knowing something like THAT were out in the shop! Ha,ha......:D

What are your other two lathes?

-----odie-----
I measured and I could turn something 44 inches wide!! Not that I have ever had a piece of Koa that big. But you never know. I'm not necessarily going bigger. I just wanted a second great lathe. You only live once... I just got commissioned to do another big Calabash for a retiring CEO. 3 of those and I cover the cost of the 1000. The third lathe in the shop is the Union Graduate. But I sold her to buy the 1000. A friend bought it, he pays me shop time, he comes once or twice a week. He is building a new house with a tiny shop. Within a year he will take her. At first I was a little annoyed at having someone in the shop, but we have become even better friends and I enjoy the company. A plus is that he cleans the entire shop every time!
 
From the three pictures of the Stubby Emiliano posted, that's the first wood lathe I've seen with any degree of innovation in design. Using lathe terminology it'd be a gap bed with sliding and swiveling bed. This is really something different in wood lathe design. In comparison, Powermatic, Jet, Laguna, Oneway, Robust, etc, etc are just variations on the same old theme.

Looking at the second picture, you see the front mounted assembly with the two upside down key hole slots. Right under the tailstock there are two socket head bolts to slide that assembly over and lock into position. That's a lot of forethought in design. Who knows why you might want to move that assembly to any one of the five possible positions provided for it, but if wanted to it can be done easily. But all of this must come at a price.

The Stubby website barely shows anything about the lathe, I wonder why. I was hoping to see optional accessories and such the designer might have had in mind with the built in versatility, nothing though.
 
It is very difficult to copy a design if you don't post drawings, dimensions and schematics of the equipment...this may have been a collaboration or prototype design that is still waiting for feed back from the beta users before they commit to a design to go to market with.
 
...this may have been a collaboration or prototype design that is still waiting for feed back from the beta users before they commit to a design to go to market with.
That would be a two-decade beta test - quite a commitment to ‘getting it right’. Those in the Stubby user’s group seem to feel that its been right all along. They are seldom found on the used market, but well worth seeking out.
 
It is very difficult to copy a design if you don't post drawings, dimensions and schematics of the equipment...this may have been a collaboration or prototype design that is still waiting for feed back from the beta users before they commit to a design to go to market with.

Jeff is right ...the Stubby lathe has been around for roughly twenty years ... maybe more. The original company went out of business several years ago. The current owner is a one man operation who has a real job. Building Stubby lathes is a spare time job which explains why the time from order placement till delivery is roughly a year. That might also explain why the web site is a bit sparse on information. The design looks like it might have been derived from some of the combo machines in the metal working world.
 
After twenty years they don't have any Import knock-offs on the market? Stubby made a number of design changes over the years, having a skilled professional test the first new design out of the engineering and manufacturing group is the standard practice in most industries, so you can eliminate design issues early in the process. Hopefully Rod can keep the design and Stubby name alive.
 
There are plenty of lathes we seldom see in this market - mostly from a lack of distributors for niche equipment. Glad to see there’s still innovation going on and dedication to building purpose-built equipment for the few seeking it, as well as keeping some of the older designs alive. Steinert keeping the VB lathes in production, the Magma Titans, Robust, Oneway - all built for the small market of those who appreciate good design, dedicated, mostly bespoke production and are willing to both wait and pony up for the few made. We are all makers...
 
I've never turned on a Stubby, but I have fondled them several times when Bill Rubenstein used to bring one to SWAT for several years. This was when the original manufacturer was only exporting the model 750 to the US and they didn't come with a stand so the stands were built by the US distributor. I was shopping for a lathe during that period and wound up getting a Robust American Beauty. I am extremely pleased with my Robust lathe, but I'm sure that I would have been happy with a Stubby.

I believe that @John Jordan was the original importer so if he sees this thread he could give a much more accurate answer to the question.
 
I've never turned on a Stubby, but I have fondled them several times when Bill Rubenstein used to bring one to SWAT for several years. This was when the original manufacturer was only exporting the model 750 to the US and they didn't come with a stand so the stands were built by the US distributor. I was shopping for a lathe during that period and wound up getting a Robust American Beauty. I am extremely pleased with my Robust lathe, but I'm sure that I would have been happy with a Stubby.

I believe that @John Jordan was the original importer so if he sees this thread he could give a much more accurate answer to the question.
My lathe came straight from the 2006 swat. Someone that uses what looks like a spider as a signature signed mine under the headstock. I can take a picture and see if we can identify him. Bill are you admitting you have fondled my pride and joy? When you come and visit I will give you some time alone with her. Money was not a problem, I could of purchased any lathe, anywhere in the world. I have turned on dozens of lathes, seen even more, felt them, fondled them. By far I like Stubby´s the best. The versatility of these lathes is amazing. The extra bed I can move it around for all different types of projects The base for the 750 was built by Bill R so he could maximize container space. It wasn't the manufacturer's first choice. I'm impressed with the quality of the 1000. Tomorrow I'll be roughing some bowls!
 
As above Stubbys have been around a long time.
I first turned on one in 2000 at the Charlotte symposium.
John Jordan the original USA importer had loaned it to AAW.
Since then maybe once a year at demos for clubs or something else.

Bill Rubinstein took over the stubby dealership from John.
Then 10-12 years ago no one was importing them and they feel out of the public eye.
for many years we would one or two demo rooms at AAW equipped with a Stubby because it would be the preferred lathe of some demonstrators.

there is quite a devoted set of stubby owners.
It truly does many things unique for wood lathes.
Has an auxiliary bed the bolts on perpendicular to the spindle.
For the average turner all these cool things it does has no practical use.
Lots of people love the machine.

one great advantage is it’s small footprint.
 
Here's my two cents worth: I had heard about the Stubby, but had never seen one, because they aren't everywhere, as all have noted. A couple of years ago, a S750 (their flagship lathe) appeared on Craigslist at 10:30 Sunday night. I was the first to respond (beating a fellow club member by 1/2 hour), and as luck would have it, the lathe lived right near where I worked. I checked it out the next day, and jumped. It was the original owner, (an early AAW guy), and he had bought it directly from John Jordan. First one Jordan brought over - before it had "Jordan" in the casting. That was in '98 or '99. He was selling it for a significant discount - when I asked him why, he said he had tried to sell it a year ago for more, but a still very fair price, and had NO TAKERS. Unbelievable.
I since have had a couple of very nice email exchanges with Rod Caddaye, the current owner of Stubby. His dad was the original owner, and after he shut it down, Rod was able to revive it. He doesn't have an inventory - he builds to order, now. His business is family owned and operated - he's a good guy, genuine, a small-business owner all the way.
The lathe itself has a unique set of answers to the universal question of how best to use space. The sliding, rotatable bedways is its unique response. Robust AB and Powermatic and clones have the sliding headstock. Nova has the rotating headstock. Oneway has outboard turning. The closest response is the Robust Sweet 16, which has the removable section which can either open up a very large gap for big bowls, or be used to extend the spindle capacity. The Stubby slides the bed out of the way to create a huge bowl capacity, or to extend the spindle capacity. You then have the supplemental beds which can be hung parallel or at right angles to the main bed, and a second banjo, thereby creating a mind-boggling array of possible setups. The advantage is being able to approach whatever weird chunk you have mounted. 95% of the time I don't need all this, but the time I did a very deep form, I was really glad to have the extra banjo and bed capability. The relatively short footprint is nice if your space is compact. It still doesn't have the ultimate advantage of a dedicated bowl lathe - while short, the bed is still long enough that you can't just face the work from the tailstock end. And like all lathes, it has a few weird little quirks (spindle lock is awkwardly placed, etc.) But it does so many things so well, it's a premium lathe, for sure. Machining is precise and rock solid - the lathe bed locks into place perfectly aligned every time. And my 20+ year old lathe has run perfectly for the couple/three years I have owned it. No bearing issue, no motor issue - perfect.
There is a Stubby owners group on facebook. Nice folks.
I'm not quite at the cult-level (like some people around here ;)), but it's a fine machine. Emiliano's S1000 - that's a friggin' beast, my man. Only thing that compares to it would be something like a 2436 or AB or the like.
 
I was the original importer and sold over 400 Stubbys. They are still the same lathe which is quite nice, but I'm not sure about sending money for a lathe a year away. The 1000 is made from the same parts as the 750, just a different stand and a taller tailstock.

John
 
Here's my two cents worth: I had heard about the Stubby, but had never seen one, because they aren't everywhere, as all have noted. A couple of years ago, a S750 (their flagship lathe) appeared on Craigslist at 10:30 Sunday night. I was the first to respond (beating a fellow club member by 1/2 hour), and as luck would have it, the lathe lived right near where I worked. I checked it out the next day, and jumped. It was the original owner, (an early AAW guy), and he had bought it directly from John Jordan. First one Jordan brought over - before it had "Jordan" in the casting. That was in '98 or '99. He was selling it for a significant discount - when I asked him why, he said he had tried to sell it a year ago for more, but a still very fair price, and had NO TAKERS. Unbelievable.
I since have had a couple of very nice email exchanges with Rod Caddaye, the current owner of Stubby. His dad was the original owner, and after he shut it down, Rod was able to revive it. He doesn't have an inventory - he builds to order, now. His business is family owned and operated - he's a good guy, genuine, a small-business owner all the way.
The lathe itself has a unique set of answers to the universal question of how best to use space. The sliding, rotatable bedways is its unique response. Robust AB and Powermatic and clones have the sliding headstock. Nova has the rotating headstock. Oneway has outboard turning. The closest response is the Robust Sweet 16, which has the removable section which can either open up a very large gap for big bowls, or be used to extend the spindle capacity. The Stubby slides the bed out of the way to create a huge bowl capacity, or to extend the spindle capacity. You then have the supplemental beds which can be hung parallel or at right angles to the main bed, and a second banjo, thereby creating a mind-boggling array of possible setups. The advantage is being able to approach whatever weird chunk you have mounted. 95% of the time I don't need all this, but the time I did a very deep form, I was really glad to have the extra banjo and bed capability. The relatively short footprint is nice if your space is compact. It still doesn't have the ultimate advantage of a dedicated bowl lathe - while short, the bed is still long enough that you can't just face the work from the tailstock end. And like all lathes, it has a few weird little quirks (spindle lock is awkwardly placed, etc.) But it does so many things so well, it's a premium lathe, for sure. Machining is precise and rock solid - the lathe bed locks into place perfectly aligned every time. And my 20+ year old lathe has run perfectly for the couple/three years I have owned it. No bearing issue, no motor issue - perfect.
There is a Stubby owners group on facebook. Nice folks.
I'm not quite at the cult-level (like some people around here ;)), but it's a fine machine. Emiliano's S1000 - that's a friggin' beast, my man. Only thing that compares to it would be something like a 2436 or AB or the like.
I'm definitely one of the cult Stubby members. I chose a 1000 as my second lathe over anything else in the world.
 
I figured that you would find out eventually. Does it creep you out to know that I groped inside the headstock and moved my hand slowly along the bed? :D
My wife wanted to know what was so funny, she heard me laughing so hard!
 
I was the original importer and sold over 400 Stubbys. They are still the same lathe which is quite nice, but I'm not sure about sending money for a lathe a year away. The 1000 is made from the same parts as the 750, just a different stand and a taller tailstock.

John

John,

Which models were the biggest sellers of the (400) Stubbys you sold into the market. Should be a few of these hitting the market each year on estate sales and auctions etc.
 
Did the S1000 have a bigger motor than the S750? Did the lathes come with motors or did you also do that?
Not sure about then, but now the 1000 comes with a 3HP motor. I had to finish a vase today, but my electrician got her plug, tomorrow I'll be testing her!
 
Did the S1000 have a bigger motor than the S750? Did the lathes come with motors or did you also do that?

Used to be able to get either. I usually talked people out of it, at that point the belt drive becomes the weak point I think. But I'm in the minority these day, everyone seems to order a 3hp on the American Beautys we sell, and Emiliano went for three on his Stubby. LOL I could turn with a 1hp.

John
 
John, I bought a 750 from Joe Ruminsky in July 2014, and love it. I was staying with Rob Jones in Western Australia before and after CollaborationWA in 2018, and saw that his 750 had a longer bed. Did you specify the short bed?
 
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