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Just had 220v installed in the garage and am thinking about upgrading my lathe (currently using a Laguna Revo 1836). I subscribe to the “buy once, cry once” line of thinking, so my immediate inclination is to get a 3hp Robust American Beauty. Of course, they are a bit more expensive than comparable competitors (e.g. Powermatic, Oneway). I don’t have much experience using those models, so am not sure if there is an appreciable difference (i.e. Is the American beauty worth the higher price?).

So, my question for the forum: Is there any reason not to go with an American Beauty if the budget can support it?
 
No, if that's what you really want. Have you turned on an American Beauty? My impression is that they are very well designed and made with excellent customer service, probably the best sliding headstock lathe readily available in the US. If you want a fixed headstock lathe, Oneway and Vicmarc are very good. For pivoting headstocks the Vicmarc 240 looks very attractive. If I were contemplating dropping $10k on a new lathe I would get some turning time on all the models I was looking at.
 
Is there any reason not to go with an American Beauty if the budget can support it?

The American beauty, ONEWAY 2436, ONEWAY 2416, Vicmarc 240 are all top of the line and have pretty close to zero unsatisfied owners. Could toss in the big Stubby too.
The decision on which is best depends on what you want to do and what you like.


These are my thoughts
If you plan to do big stuff - edge goes to ONEWAY 2436
If you plan to do hollowing with the the Jamieson, Simon Hope or other big capacity hollowing rigs edge goes to Vicmarc and ONEWAY 2436
If you plan to use the Bosch hollowing rig edge goes to Robust AB and ONEWAY 2416
If you are mostly bowls the ONEWAY 2416 with the 17” outboard is about the perfect bowl lathe.
If you want a sliding headstock the Robust is the only top of the line that has one.
If you want a pivoting headstock get the Vicmarc
If space is an issue the edge goes to the 2416 and Robust

The Robust is an absolutely terrific lathe. Like every lathe on my list it’s not the number one choice for every turner or the best for every job.
 
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I wish you luck making this decision. These are lathe types i don't think I'll ever consider, even if I hit the lotto and money isn't of a concern. The Scout on the other hand might be a serious consideration, if I ht the lotto. I think it ultimately comes down to what you want.

You've said you've turned on an American Beauty and loved it, to me that means if you can afford it that's what you should get. The others you list have many users and seem to be really good machines, but ultimately you are making yourself happy. Think of it like a sports car, there are many really fantastic choices, but if you're a big fan of Lamborgini, why buy a Ferrari or Porsche.

I'm considering what I'll get in a year right now. Being on disability I have to save up for big purchases. So I'm looking and budgeting right now. I thought i knew what I was going to get, but now I'm expanding that search. I want this purchase to be the last lathe I buy, unless for some reason I decide to have multiple lathes. I'll stop hijacking this thread and return you all to our regularly scheduled discussion.

TLDR: get the American Beauty if you can afford it and it will make you happy.

Gregory
 
This is a must for my hollow form turning, so it seems the AB is the way to go. Thanks for the thorough overview!

If you want to do stand in front of hollowing.
The ONEWAY 2416 provides this both inboard and outboard.
The outboard on the 2436 offers this too but the piece must be moved to the outboard spindle.
Stubby is good for stand in front hollowing too.
 
I had a Jet 1642 when I started turning and used it very happily for a number of years. I then had a chance to buy a used PM 3520B and did, but kept the Jet. A year or two later, I took a class with Derek Weidman at Arrowmont and used a Robust since they had a good reputation. I went home and immediately ordered an AB; money was not a consideration since we had just settled my father's estate. I've had it for 8-9 years now and turned happily. In that time my only problem was a failing switch in year 6, Due to the 7 year warranty, Robust replaced it at no cost. Of course the problem occurred late on Friday afternoon near Christmas. They answered the phone and led me through a series of checks to make sure that was the problem. They gave me a workaround and I received a replacement within a couple days. I've turned on a number of 3520Cs. If I were buying a PM I would get a 3520*B* and save money.

The sliding headstock was a feature I wanted after using the Jet and PM.

After buying the AB, I sold the 3520b -- for 85% of what I'd paid -- and kept the 1642. I never did like the 3520 as much as the Jet. I've been very happy with with the AB.
 
Echoing Mark on the customer service. I have turned on the PM lathes and owned a 1642 Jet for a long while. I turn mostly bowls and I love the sliding headstock feature and tilt away tailstock features on the AB. I am 79 YO and the thought of wrestling with the tailstock is just not attractive to me. With the AB I rotate the tailstock (effortless) and slide the headstock toward that end of the lathe for hollowing my bowls.

I also like the fact the the AB is an American made product, but what I love most about this purchase is that I can pick up the phone and invariably it is either Brent or his wife answering the phone. I have only owned my AB for a couple years, but I have been more than pleased with my choice.
 
I'm the red headed step child with my grizzly g0766 that I paid under $2000 for in '17. 3 hp with a sliding headstock though I've never utilized that because of being up against a wall.
 
Just had 220v installed in the garage and am thinking about upgrading my lathe (currently using a Laguna Revo 1836). I subscribe to the “buy once, cry once” line of thinking, so my immediate inclination is to get a 3hp Robust American Beauty. Of course, they are a bit more expensive than comparable competitors (e.g. Powermatic, Oneway). I don’t have much experience using those models, so am not sure if there is an appreciable difference (i.e. Is the American beauty worth the higher price?).

So, my question for the forum: Is there any reason not to go with an American Beauty if the budget can support it?
Is that even a question?? :) Absolutely worth the extra price! I have a Sweet 16, best machine I have ever owned. I have had it for almost three years now with ZERO problems. You will not regret purchasing one, I have talked and met with Brent personally many times and he is an expert in his field. And with your turning skill, it is well worth it.

I will say depending on your work, the Sweet 16 is an awesome option, I have the 1.5hp but if you have the power get the 3hp. I like the stainless steel ways and the smaller size of the banjo and tailstock, it is easier to move. I will include some good photos of my lathe for you to take a look at! This lathe also has digital readout.

These photos are from the day it was delivered.....so it looks extra shiny!
 

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I had a Powermatic for about 20 years and had to replace almost everything. Their customer service sucked. I'd be on hold, (for what seemed like way too long) then get connected to a "technician" that couldn't offer any good information, ideas, or solutions.

The American Beauty is a perfect name. It's a thing of beauty that's made right here in the US. You're helping to feed a fellow woodturner and maybe a few other families in his community, not a corporation. Brent stands behind his tools. (proudly, with good reason to)

Stainless bedways are awesome, and still look new. Their only downside is that magnets won't stick, but there's plenty of steel elsewhere.

The swing away tailstock is also awesome. Smooth, easy, no extra steps, just slide to end, lock, and push it out of your way. It's almost easier than removing your live center.

Adjustable legs are very solid and offer a wide range of heights; way better than other machines that offer a very limited height range, often with skinny bolt adjuster feet that don't hold up to an implied length extension.

There are very few downsides that I can think of. If you have a tachometer on your current lathe, you might miss it. It's easy to add on yourself for about $20, so definitely not a deal breaker.
 
Is that even a question?? :) Absolutely worth the extra price! I have a Sweet 16, best machine I have ever owned. I have had it for almost three years now with ZERO problems. You will not regret purchasing one, I have talked and met with Brent personally many times and he is an expert in his field. And with your turning skill, it is well worth it.

I will say depending on your work, the Sweet 16 is an awesome option, I have the 1.5hp but if you have the power get the 3hp. I like the stainless steel ways and the smaller size of the banjo and tailstock, it is easier to move. I will include some good photos of my lathe for you to take a look at!
 

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Clearly, the Robust is a terrific tool. So are the Oneway and the Vicmarc, and the Powermatic is very capable though maybe not quite as refined. To me, the key question is which one fits the way you like things to be? They all have slightly different methods for accomplishing the many little tasks necessary to turn wood. If you get one that does something in a way you find awkward, or just bugs you, you'll not be as happy as you might have been. We have a small Oneway at the high school shop and it's a wonderful medium sized lathe, but the levers go the wrong way and the spindle lock is funny.

You've turned on an AB and a Powermatic. Before you plunk down a chunk of change, go find a Oneway and see how you like how it does its thing. It'll be different than the other two, and just might be the best. For you. If not, at least you'll know.
 
I’m on an upgraded PM3520a that has a new spindle lock, new bearings and belt, detachable new VFD, and a tachometer. I’ve heard service/support for PM sucks—from many—but I found a local guy who owns a machine shop and is a wizard. Back to your question after that background: I’d jump on a new AB. With your skills, have the best.
 
While I enjoy turning on the Powermatic, I'm sure glad the studio pays for service calls. Money being "no object" an American Beauty or Oneway would be my choice (the Oneways last forever under daily use). I recently bought a used Harvey and like it just as well as the PM's, but they refuse to make a banjo that fits any so-called 1" tool rest except their own. I had the banjo on mine reamed out to fit Robust, D-Way, etc.
 
Since you have turned on an AB and like it, and money isn't an issue, you won't go wrong with one. For sure the customer service is second to none, and for a sliding headstock lathe it is the best available in N.A. Still, if you haven't turned on a Oneway or Vicmarc you probably should. I have a Oneway 2436 with a short outboard extension that allows for hollowing moderate sized pieces straight-on and is a very solid and reliable lathe, the headstock stays put and the tailstock rarely needs removed. For bowls and all but really large work the pivoting headstock Vicmarc 240 seems very attractive but I would have to use one to be convinced for sure.

To me, having started with a crap Craftsman lathe and then a big General, a good lathe is one that "disappears" when you are turning- you don't have to worry about anything deflecting or vibrating under load, the ergonomics are good, everything is convenient and doesn't distract from the turning process. Only hands-on experience will tell you which one is right for you.
 
The Powermatic 3520b purchased new in 2005 for $2300 with bed extension has been a perfect lathe. Sliding head, extension mounted low for very large pieces, and added swing away. I have never felt the need to upgrade and have turned on most every lathe made. The lathe is and has been the best of the best for me.
 
The Powermatic 3520b purchased new in 2005 for $2300 with bed extension has been a perfect lathe. Sliding head, extension mounted low for very large pieces, and added swing away. I have never felt the need to upgrade and have turned on most every lathe made. The lathe is and has been the best of the best for me.
It think that’s the one I looked at when they were sold in the UK, I was very impressed with the build.
Strange that someone said earlier in this thread “If you want a sliding headstock the Robust is the only top of the line that has one.” ?
 
All the Robust lathes were built to "age with you". By that I mean, they accommodate the body as it ages, by having features that allow us to continue turning when the other lathes present issues that were no problem in our 30's and 40's. But in our 50's and 60's we have a number of physical ailments - bad backs, knees and hips all present issues that the Robust lathes have already addressed.
 
Just had 220v installed in the garage and am thinking about upgrading my lathe (currently using a Laguna Revo 1836). I subscribe to the “buy once, cry once” line of thinking, so my immediate inclination is to get a 3hp Robust American Beauty. Of course, they are a bit more expensive than comparable competitors (e.g. Powermatic, Oneway). I don’t have much experience using those models, so am not sure if there is an appreciable difference (i.e. Is the American beauty worth the higher price?).

So, my question for the forum: Is there any reason not to go with an American Beauty if the budget can support it?
Basically, all a lathe does is spin a piece of wood! It is the person on the outside of the tool rest and the tools that person uses (I'm trying to be politically correct) that are important. All the lathes are very good and I have turned on the Powermatic 3520, Oneway, and the Robust. They all have their pros and cons. I have also turned on the Harvey T=60 Lathe. I was very impressed with the Harvey. I own the Powermatic 3520C and the Harvey T-60, I used the Harvey for my large over 20 inches and finials and have had no problems with either lathe. I have used the Oneway a lot in the beginning of my Woodturning journey and like it. The Oneway and the Robust are North American made and most of the others made in Asia. Not getting into the politics, I can not see spending twice the cost for a machine that just spins wood! It is you the Woodturner that is important.
 
My first "real" lathe was a 3520A. Loved it, but had problems with the headstock pressure plate which was cast iron and snapped when coring some black locust. Slow speed on it was about 10 rpm which is perfect for sanding out my warped bowls. Next lathe was the first version of the AB. Very nice lathe, but minimum speed was 50 rpm. I had Brent help me get the range down. It is a 3 speed range lathe which I prefer since on many lathes, high range does not like coring, and slow speed is too slow but has the torque. Mid range is perfect for both. With the AB, the pressure plate on the base of the headstock was the same size as the headstock tower. This is how I would do it if I was to manufacture my own lathe. The PM had a 4 by 6 inch steel pressure plate last time I checked. Some cheap lathes use the same pressure plate on all of their parts, headstock, tailstock and banjo. This is an instant deal killer to me. I also picked up a Vicmark 240 which is the one with the pivoting headstock. Best headstock design as far as I am concerned goes, hands down, to the Vicmark. I don't like using the tailstock. The trend with the lathes now is to put a bell housing on which allows more clearance to the back side of the bowl, but cantilevers it farther off of the headstock tower which adds vibration issues. The bell housing does allow you to remove the headstock spindle without having to remove the entire headstock. Note here, the vibration goes away with the tailstock engaged. To me, that is an extra production step. I have not found tailstock engagement to be necessary for 99% of what I turn, well bowl wise anyway. I figure this is why so many production turners use the Vicmark like Mike Mahoney, Stuart Batty, Glenn Lucas, and others. I got the PM because of the sliding headstock which makes it a combination bowl and spindle lathe. I do not like turning bowls in long bed lathe arm positions. You have to lean over or extend your arms out like Stuart does. More work than necessary, but If I had to, I could make that work, but the alternatives are far better for my style of turning, standing straight up and arms in close to my body. If at all possible, try before you buy! Oh, customer service from Robust is by far the best! Oneway is pretty good also. With Jet and PM, they now send you to a tech who responds from one of the FAQ selections and doesn't know the lathe at all.

robo hippy
 
There is a lot more than just spinning wood. I think @Donna Banfield summed it up well. I have the Robust AB. I previously turned on a laguna 18-36. I think I replaced every switch, relay, and board on that lathe. They also sent me a new headstock and had to replace parts on it. However things overlooked are the spindle height. I thought I could ge away with it being a little low. Wrong it gave men back problems. That is not Laguna’s fault, just the design of the lathe. The Robust has quality parts including the motor, VFD and switches. Quality components cost more than lesser components. I can also set the height to exactly where I want it and no longer have back problems. I have turned on cast iron, steel and stainless steel ways and would not ever want to go back to cast iron or steel. My Robust is now 5 years old and of course trouble free and is important to me to be able to spin wood every day. Robust CS is by far the best. I have had no problems, but have sent Brent questions from time to time and always a quick answer.
 
I have a Oneway 1640 which I have enjoyed, and was an easy decision with living in Canada within 100 miles of the Oneway factory. I have not gone to outboard turning due to restricted space. I now regret not getting a lathe with a sliding or swivel headstock. If buying again I would have splurged on the Robust.
Considering the threat of a 25% tariff looming on Canadian imports to the U.S., you might want to check today's pricing on a Oneway.
 
All the Robust lathes were built to "age with you". By that I mean, they accommodate the body as it ages, by having features that allow us to continue turning when the other lathes present issues that were no problem in our 30's and 40's. But in our 50's and 60's we have a number of physical ailments - bad backs, knees and hips all present issues that the Robust lathes have already addressed.
@Donna Banfield
Could you expand on how the AB helps accommodate aging? I know the tail stock swing away is one. Are there others? I’m curious as I seem to be aging pretty quickly.
 
The resale prices on Robust, Vicmarc and Oneway lathes are all surprisingly strong, so you are unlikely to take a big loss even if you change your mind. Whenever I see one of these lathes on the used market the machine will be priced within two thousand of the current new price (and probably at or higher than the original purchase price). I have seen used 3520s listed at very attractive prices. If cost is at all a factor, the AB, VM 240 or 300 and Oneway 2436 are not equal in price, particularly when accessories are taken into account.
 
My Robust AB has been performing flawlessly for over 12 years now. Picked it up at the 2012 Symposium in San Jose. It sees action nearly daily and has never had an issue that kept me from turning. Hate to take issue with Hockenbery, but I have no issues hollowing with my Jamieson rig on the Robust, and with a true swing of just over 25”, going big hasn’t been a problem.
As an aging turner - 76 and counting - the tilt away is a blessing and the simple spindle height adjustment via the legs helps get it to just the right height. I do mostly bowls and the sliding head is in constant use.

I bought mine as my ‘Last’ lathe just before retiring and it continues to do everything I ask of it perfectly. The price was high, but, as they say, you only cry once. I actually leave the shop with a smile after every turning day. That’s something that’s not true of any other tool in my shop.

My advice it to get it, and get everything you want on it. Well worth the cost.
 
I have a favorite lathe...........
But, I vote that you find some other turner nearby that has any of the lathes you are thinking about. Ask to try them. Show up with a couple of chunks of wood and tools. Clean up your mess when done. A little extra wood to leave the owner when you leave. Try them all before you make a decision. Some lathes just seem to be more fun to work with than others. Levers in a certain spot, the way the whole thing works, how easy is it to change things, etc. Go try them all. Then make your decision. Make notes when you use a lathe, then you can compare later.
I like the lathe I have now. Have had it about 20+ years. Would not change it. That is what you want to find. Get the horsepower when given the choice.
I tried most of the lathes mentioned. One, a good lathe, drove me crazy because I was constantly rapping a knuckle when I moved the tailstock. Nice lathe.....but I did not enjoy the rap on the knuckle all the time. Enough for me to not purchase that species of lathe.
Have fun. Make a good choice.
 
When I retired in '18 I was lucky to be able to time it with a planned 'reduction in force' (layoffs) such that I got many months of severance pay that I was not expecting at the time I was looking for a decent lathe (I had a ShopSmith that was such a negative turning experience that I never used it unless forced to). I ended up with a 3hp AB with tilt-away. Best tool decision I ever made.

What I like best about that lathe:
1. Made in the US with American materials and labor - if I buy something that is going to mean a job for somebody to make it; I would rather pay more to have that money go to a fellow citizen - that's just me, each to his own. Plus when you need service/advice you are talking to a small company where everybody on the phone knows about the subject, in your time zone and a native English speaker.
2. Stainless bed ways - if you like to turn green wood that is huge thing to have.
3. Mobility - I got a low profile floor jack so that wheels go on in seconds, rolls freely when mobile and with wheels off planted firmly on legs that are simple to adjust for height and leveling.
4. Designed and built by people who actually use the tool and it shows in thoughtful details like the movable magnetic controls.
 
... a good lathe, drove me crazy because I was constantly rapping a knuckle when I moved the tailstock. Nice lathe.....but I did not enjoy the rap on the knuckle all the time.

I got my nuckle or fingertip a few times when moving my banjo. Nothing wrong with the lathe, just one part of it. I made a change to the binder and I totally love it now.

No machine is totally perfect fro everybody. It's like a bicycle. They look the same, but until you jump on and take it for a ride, you don't know if it fits you and feels right. Unless you design and build your own, there will be minor annoyances. Even then, there will probalby be things that seemed good on paper, but not in actual use. I'm guessing every machine out there has undergone changes and improvements. There's a part of my mind that thinks I could build a machine the way I think would be just right, but another part reminds me that you just can't think of every scenario, and it just wouldn't be perfect.
 
@Donna Banfield
Could you expand on how the AB helps accommodate aging? I know the tail stock swing away is one. Are there others? I’m curious as I seem to be aging pretty quickly.
The tailstock swing-away doesn't just provide you with the ability to get it out of the way. It has a gas-assist that allows you to push it down with one finger...one aging, arthritic finger.

Having the ability to slide the headstock to the end of the lathe eliminates the need to rotate at your hip, and bend over sideways to perform any hollowing...of bowls, hollow forms, boxes, etc. This also covers having to sand the inside of all those as well. With the headstock at the very end of the lathe, everything can be done standing straight, with no bending over or twisting of the hips.

I may have shared the story on why/how I acquired by Robust American Beauty, but it's worth sharing here again. I had a hip replacement in 2020. 18 months later, I was experiencing loss of feeling down that leg, all the way into the foot. I thought something had gone wrong with the hip replacement, so a visit to the surgeon was made. I learned that anything that happens below the knee (loss of feeling, numbness) was related to the back. A scan found two herniated discs. Physical therapy did not resolve the issue, because I needed to continue to work (I do this full time). Every time I had to rotate at the waist, and bend over the lathe bed of my Oneway 2436, I aggravated the back. The numbness and loss of feeling had now migrated to the other leg. I was using a cane to walk. Cortisone injections - 2 - and very painful to endure - were only temporary solutions.

By the fall of 2022, I was scheduled to teach a workshop at Arrowmont, one that was cancelled from 2020, due to the pandemic. My husband was trying to convince me to cancel. I told him I would sleep on bags of ice to teach and I would not cancel that workshop. I boarded the plane in Boston using my cane. My studio assistant picked me up at the airport, and took responsibility for carrying all bags.

Arrowmont's wood studio had several Robust lathes, and the instructor's lathe was an American Beauty. With the swing-away tail stock being a breeze and being able to stand at the end of the lathe without having to twist and bend over for the entire week, I didn't aggravate the back at all. I still used ice and heat every night on my back and did my core exercises with the TheraBands every morning. At the end of the week, I boarded my plane home with the cane in my checked baggage. When Dave picked me up in Boston Friday night, I said, "We need to talk...."

The following Monday morning, I was on the phone with Brent English ordering my American Beauty. Note that top quality equipment holds its value. I sold my Oneway 2436, that I bought used in 2002 for only $200 less than what I paid for it, after 20 years of long and regular use by me.

Probably more than you wanted to know, but there it is.
 
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The tailstock swing-away doesn't just provide you with the ability to get it out of the way. It has a gas-assist that allows you to push it down with one finger...one aging, arthritic finger.

Having the ability to slide the headstock to the end of the lathe eliminates the need to rotate at your hip, and bend over sideways to perform any hollowing...of bowls, hollow forms, boxes, etc. This also covers having to sand the inside of all those as well. With the headstock at the very end of the lathe, everything can be done standing straight, with no bending over or twisting of the hips.

I may have shared the story on why/how I acquired by Robust American Beauty, but it's worth sharing here again. I had a hip replacement in 2020. 18 months later, I was experiencing loss of feeling down that leg, all the way into the foot. I thought something had gone wrong with the hip replacement, so a visit to the surgeon was made. I learned that anything that happens below the knee (loss of feeling, numbness) was related to the back. A scan found two herniated discs. Physical therapy did not resolve the issue, because I needed to continue to work (I do this full time). Every time I had to rotate at the waist, and bend over the lathe bed of my Oneway 2436, I aggravated the back. The numbness and loss of feeling had now migrated to the other leg. I was using a cane to walk. Cortisone injections - 2 - and very painful to endure - were only temporary solutions.

By the fall of 2022, I was scheduled to teach a workshop at Arrowmont, one that was cancelled from 2020, due to the pandemic. My husband was trying to convince me to cancel. I told him I would sleep on bags of ice to teach and I would not I cancel that workshop. I boarded the plane in Boston using my cane. My studio assistant picked me up at the airport, and took responsibility for carrying all bags.

Arrowmont's wood studio had several Robust lathes, and the instructor's lathe was an American Beauty. With the swing-away tail stock being a breeze and being able to stand at the end of the lathe without having to twist and bend over for the entire week, I didn't aggravate the back at all. I still used ice and heat every night on my back and did my core exercises with the TheraBands every morning. At the end of the week, I boarded my plane home with the cane in my checked baggage. When Dave picked me up in Boston Friday night, I said, "We need to talk...."

The following Monday morning, I was on the phone with Brent English ordering my American Beauty. Note that top quality equipment holds its value. I sold my Oneway 2436, that I bought used in 2002 for only $200 less than what I paid for it, after 20 years of long and regular use by me.

Probably more than you wanted to know, but there it is.
wonderful story, especially that your back improved and you avoided a back operation!
 
Just had 220v installed in the garage and am thinking about upgrading my lathe (currently using a Laguna Revo 1836). I subscribe to the “buy once, cry once” line of thinking, so my immediate inclination is to get a 3hp Robust American Beauty. Of course, they are a bit more expensive than comparable competitors (e.g. Powermatic, Oneway). I don’t have much experience using those models, so am not sure if there is an appreciable difference (i.e. Is the American beauty worth the higher price?).

So, my question for the forum: Is there any reason not to go with an American Beauty if the budget can support it?
 
The tailstock swing-away doesn't just provide you with the ability to get it out of the way. It has a gas-assist that allows you to push it down with one finger...one aging, arthritic finger.

Having the ability to slide the headstock to the end of the lathe eliminates the need to rotate at your hip, and bend over sideways to perform any hollowing...of bowls, hollow forms, boxes, etc. This also covers having to sand the inside of all those as well. With the headstock at the very end of the lathe, everything can be done standing straight, with no bending over or twisting of the hips.

I may have shared the story on why/how I acquired by Robust American Beauty, but it's worth sharing here again. I had a hip replacement in 2020. 18 months later, I was experiencing loss of feeling down that leg, all the way into the foot. I thought something had gone wrong with the hip replacement, so a visit to the surgeon was made. I learned that anything that happens below the knee (loss of feeling, numbness) was related to the back. A scan found two herniated discs. Physical therapy did not resolve the issue, because I needed to continue to work (I do this full time). Every time I had to rotate at the waist, and bend over the lathe bed of my Oneway 2436, I aggravated the back. The numbness and loss of feeling had now migrated to the other leg. I was using a cane to walk. Cortisone injections - 2 - and very painful to endure - were only temporary solutions.

By the fall of 2022, I was scheduled to teach a workshop at Arrowmont, one that was cancelled from 2020, due to the pandemic. My husband was trying to convince me to cancel. I told him I would sleep on bags of ice to teach and I would not cancel that workshop. I boarded the plane in Boston using my cane. My studio assistant picked me up at the airport, and took responsibility for carrying all bags.

Arrowmont's wood studio had several Robust lathes, and the instructor's lathe was an American Beauty. With the swing-away tail stock being a breeze and being able to stand at the end of the lathe without having to twist and bend over for the entire week, I didn't aggravate the back at all. I still used ice and heat every night on my back and did my core exercises with the TheraBands every morning. At the end of the week, I boarded my plane home with the cane in my checked baggage. When Dave picked me up in Boston Friday night, I said, "We need to talk...."

The following Monday morning, I was on the phone with Brent English ordering my American Beauty. Note that top quality equipment holds its value. I sold my Oneway 2436, that I bought used in 2002 for only $200 less than what I paid for it, after 20 years of long and regular use by me.

Probably more than you wanted to know, but there it is.
Thank you. I might need to find one to try out.
 
PM3520c has sliding headstock and now is on sale for $4500, could buy 2 for less than one AB. Only 2 horsepower, though. Kind of Ferrari vs Cadillac. If money didn’t matter, I’d go AB, mainly because of service.
 
One reason I got my AB was because it had 3 hp. I can't really tell any difference between torque between the 2 and 3 hp lathes. I do think the 3 speed ranges are optimal, which would more than make up for the hp differences. As for the tilt away tailstock, the AB wins that contest by a land slide! I do like the telescoping legs on the AB. I can set it to my preferred height which really helps posture issues. My 3520A, in order to get it to height, I set it up on 4 by 4s. I am 6 foot tall, well, now 5' 11 1/2, and just like my lathe a bit higher.

robo hippy
 
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