Is this a new technique?

[Ryan Butler]

I have finished some turned pieces that have both a top and bottom live edge. I have several series of these with different shapes, bases, and woods that are finished, in process, or conceptualized. I am curious if anyone else has seen or done any pieces with two natural edges like these? I have seen burls turned with the sides left natural, but not the top and bottom edges. Have I come up with a new (albeit simple) technique? Please let me know. Thank you. I greatly appreciate and respect our woodturning community, and don't want to claim any credit due to others.

 

[Mark Jundanian]

"After thousands of years it's all been turned before."
---Jimmy Clewes

That said, it's new to you. And new to me, too.

 

[hockenbery]

I have not seen anything with your combination of elements and spatial arrangement.

Saw a demo at an AAW on turning tubes around 2000. Can’t recall the guys name ( Olsen? Maybe) he had done a Cross for a church that was constructed from Two tubes. The one was cut and glued into the other to make the cross.

Quite a few people have turned various tube shapes with natural edge on each opening.
An a whole lot of folks have made use of a hollow in a log to get a through hole with two natural edge edges. I have done hollow forms and spheres from hollow log getting windows with natural edges.

The April 2018 journal had several articles relating . A few photos below

Pascal Oudet does fantastic thin tube shapes that he then sketonizes by sandblasting.


using the voids

 

[Ryan Butler]

"After thousands of years it's all been turned before."
---Jimmy Clewes

That said, it's new to you. And new to me, too.

Great Clews quotation! I guess I need to rephrase my question Thanks for the feedback

 

[Ryan Butler]

I have not seen anything with your combination of elements and spatial arrangement.

Saw a demo at an AAW on turning tubes around 2000. Can’t recall the guys name ( Olsen? Maybe) he had done a Cross for a church that was constructed from Two tubes. The one was cut and glued into the other to make the cross.

Quite a few people have turned various tube shapes with natural edge on each opening.
An a whole lot of folks have made use of a hollow in a log to get a through hole with two natural edge edges. I have done hollow forms and spheres from hollow log getting windows with natural edges.

The April 2018 journal had several articles relating . A few photos below

Pascal Oudet does fantastic thin tube shapes that he then sketonizes by sandblasting.
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using the voids
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Thank you, sir. That is helpful. One thing that is so fun and lends itself to creativity in turning is that there are so many combinations available. I was curious to find out about other pieces that are bowls, vases, or hollow forms that have a solid bottom natural edge as well as a natural edge around the rim, such as mine. The pictures that you posted above show some beautiful pieces! I am partial to natural, organic edges, hollows, and shapes. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post.

 

[hockenbery]

Thank you, sir. That is helpful. One thing that is so fun and lends itself to creativity in turning is that there are so many combinations available. I was curious to find out about other pieces that are bowls, vases, or hollow forms that have a solid bottom natural edge as well as a natural edge around the rim, such as mine. The pictures that you posted above show some beautiful pieces! I am partial to natural, organic edges, hollows, and shapes. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post.

So your bottom is not open. I read live edge and thought opening but it doesn’t have to be.

did see a bowl in the cooper museum - was’t turned but the bark from a half log was tied on each end with either a vine or strip of leather at an angle that brought the tied ends up to the rim. Neat little bowl bark on the bottom.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Ryan,

Nice work thinking outside the (box) & (bowl). Definitely a work or art!

 

[Ryan Butler]

Ryan,

Nice work thinking outside the (box) & (bowl). Definitely a work or art!

Thanks Mike! Those are kind words.

 

[Ryan Butler]

So your bottom is not open. I read live edge and thought opening but it doesn’t have to be.

did see a bowl in the cooper museum - was’t turned but the bark from a half log was tied on each end with either a vine or strip of leather at an angle that brought the tied ends up to the rim. Neat little bowl bark on the bottom.

That sounds neat! Yes, my pieces have a solid bottom. I can see how the live edge terminology could be confusing though. I guess I use it to describe the bottom profile when viewing the piece on its stand. One sees the profile as an edge. On a different note, did I post pictures in the wrong way or place here? I received a notification. Sorry if I did. First time to do this. Thanks

 

[hockenbery]

different note, did I post pictures in the wrong way or place here? I received a notification. Sorry if I did. First time to do this. Thanks

@Bill Boehme and @Emiliano Achaval are the moderators so they would be the ones to ask about appropriate places to post.

My 2 cents - Based on your question, I think this is a good place to post if you want to start a discussion. Photos of pieces are usually posted in the photo gallery section. You might want to post each piece in the photo gallery too.

 

[Ryan Butler]

@Bill Boehme and @Emiliano Achaval are the moderators so they would be the ones to ask about appropriate places to post.

My 2 cents - Based on your question, I think this is a good place to post if you want to start a discussion. Photos of pieces are usually posted in the photo gallery section. You might want to post each piece in the photo gallery too.

Ok. Thanks... I have posted them in the gallery.

 

[Bill Boehme]

I have finished some turned pieces that have both a top and bottom live edge. I have several series of these with different shapes, bases, and woods that are finished, in process, or conceptualized. I am curious if anyone else has seen or done any pieces with two natural edges like these? I have seen burls turned with the sides left natural, but not the top and bottom edges. Have I come up with a new (albeit simple) technique? Please let me know. Thank you. I greatly appreciate and respect our woodturning community, and don't want to claim any credit due to others.

I think it could evolve into something unique, but currently my impression is that you are primarily exploring a concept. I think it would be very beneficial if the form could evolve into a piece that conveys a sense of motion or evokes an emotional response or invites someone to hold and study it. Of course, continuing to evolve applies to all of us.

 

[Ryan Butler]

I think it could evolve into something unique, but currently my impression is that you are primarily exploring a concept. I think it would be very beneficial if the form could evolve into a piece that conveys a sense of motion or evokes an emotional response or invites someone to hold and study it. Of course, continuing to evolve applies to all of us.

Bill, thank you for the feedback. I am definitely exploring this concept. I have other pieces with multiple shapes and bases and some without bases that I am tinkering with. I love natural edges, so it is fun to craft pieces with a solid, natural bottom and natural edge opening. I am very much an amateur photographer, so I will say that the depth, and variation of the actual pieces is far greater than the pictures convey.

 

[Bill Boehme]

different note, did I post pictures in the wrong way or place here? I received a notification. Sorry if I did. First time to do this. Thanks

The reason that I edited your post is that with future software changes the directory structure might change the relationship between the gallery and the discussion forums. So it is best to avoid potential broken links by attaching images directly from your computer to your post. It is OK to upload the same images to the gallery.

I copied your linked images, then removed the links to the gallery, and finally uploaded the copied images to your post. I think that I also merged two of your posts. If you aren't sure how to post images, here is a tutorial.

 

[Russ Braun]

Nice work Ryan! I’m curious as to what technique did you use to be able to work at the dining room table?

 

[Mike Johnson]

That technique is referred to as owning a pair, or he has some photos hidden in a safe secure place.

 

[Ryan Butler]

I built the table for her lol. She humors me. But I definitely am pushing the limits as the window sills and countertops fill with turned objects. If I want to keep sleeping indoors, my turnings are going to have to go to the shop