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I'm gonna guess that BP is Bradford Pear?

We used to get a lot of bartlet pear in Maryland.
🙂
If wind or ice were forecast the big limbs would start falling off out of fright. 🙂

Especially Nice to turn when green( orange)

Have fun!
 
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I'm gonna guess that BP is Bartlett Pear?

We used to get a lot of bartlet pear in Maryland.
🙂
If wind or ice were forecast the big limbs would start falling off out of fright. 🙂

Especially Nice to tur when green( orange)

Have fun!

Looks like Bradford Pear. Turns great but don't I wish that red color would stay. I discovered when I dyed a piece last year that it has a bit of curly figure in it also.
 
we have always called it Bradford pear around here.....it does not have any fruit.......is there any difference in bartlett pear and Bradford pear???????
 
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W. Gravely kindly delivered bp after dinner, I sure do miss my truck......it wore me out......just this little bit

not sure why I get double pictures
 
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Nice haul Charlie! I think that will keep you busy for a while! I like turning BP, and it will crack if not sealed well, and kept out of the sun. If you can rough turn it before it cracks, then you have a good shot at it not cracking. I put mine in a bag after sealing the roughout with anchorseal, and staple the bag shut. It will take a few months, maybe as many as 8 for it to stabilize, but it turns out nice.

Looks like you already put sealer on in the pics.........good for you and good luck with it!
 
Nice haul Charlie! I think that will keep you busy for a while! I like turning BP, and it will crack if not sealed well, and kept out of the sun. If you can rough turn it before it cracks, then you have a good shot at it not cracking. I put mine in a bag after sealing the roughout with anchorseal, and staple the bag shut. It will take a few months, maybe as many as 8 for it to stabilize, but it turns out nice.

Looks like you already put sealer on in the pics.........good for you and good luck with it!

yeah, I have sealed it, I like to keep it off the ground, with some air flow covered with good tarp....when bp is fresh cut it is waterlogged......I will let it sit at least 3 months( I still have several bp blanks that are at least 2 years old to turn.......doing the calabash zia series I do not rough turn, but turn to finally thickness and put turning in a wooden chest of drawers for a week or so, no air flow..(picked that up from JJ at st paul symposium 8 am sunday morning)......I turn it a good 3/8 thick with the bottom a lillte more.....the blank must be dry before I start the embellishment process or the wetness will bubble the surface....bp is probably my favorite wood to turn
 
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Looks like you split the logs into quarters any tips on doing this the easy way. My rotor cuff has been causing me grief this last year
so any method to make this task easier is appreciated. Pear is one of my favorite woods to turn out of the fruit trees, the shavings just
peel right off the billet. Nice wood to work with!
 
Looks like you split the logs into quarters any tips on doing this the easy way

one thing is to use the heaviest splitter you can find.....I have a 6 lb and maybe a 3 lb......keep the edge on them....does not have to be like an axe......place it about an inch from the bark pointing to the pith....that will split it across the trunk.....the longer you wait maybe a month the wood will split easier but will probably be cracked if you wait......if doing firewood that is the way to do it.....for turning wood I split it as green as I can and seal it and put it up......you can do oak in enclosed cardboard barrels to reduce cracks.....look for splitters @ yard sales and estate sales.....I am looking for an eight lb, I have seen loggers use plastic ones but they use them for keeping the crack open and loggers usually have a motorized splitter......not sure if someone can use motorized splitter for turning wood......if anyone knows....shout out

these are hollow form blanks....u would do bowl blanks different, if u have the right chain on chainsaw u can chainsaw them....but cutting with the grain on a chainsaw takes a special chain

thanks Steve for cleaning the thread up.......liking your sock show......some would make good embellishments
 
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yeah, I have sealed it, I like to keep it off the ground, with some air flow covered with good tarp....when bp is fresh cut it is waterlogged......I will let it sit at least 3 months( I still have several bp blanks that are at least 2 years old to turn.......doing the calabash zia series I do not rough turn, but turn to finally thickness and put turning in a wooden chest of drawers for a week or so, no air flow..(picked that up from JJ at st paul symposium 8 am sunday morning)......I turn it a good 3/8 thick with the bottom a lillte more.....the blank must be dry before I start the embellishment process or the wetness will bubble the surface....bp is probably my favorite wood to turn
If you let it sit 3 months like that, I don't think you will have much to turn. As hot as this summer has been, it's going to check like crazy. Hope I'm wrong, but it acts like other fruit woods around here.
 
If you let it sit 3 months like that, I don't think you will have much to turn. As hot as this summer has been, it's going to check like crazy. Hope I'm wrong, but it acts like other fruit woods around here.

well Virginia certainly has had a hot summer and humid.....but percentage wize its not that much hotter than any other summer.....I think I got my last bp in the fall from more middle of the state......but here is the thing......that's the great thing about free wood
 
Charlie I have heard people talk about cutting with the grain being a problem. I have not had any problem except the strings of shavings have to be cleared every now and then. If I am understanding I cut from the side of the log with the cut following the grain when I cut bowl blanks.
 
Charlie I have heard people talk about cutting with the grain being a problem. I have not had any problem except the strings of shavings have to be cleared every now and then. If I am understanding I cut from the side of the log with the cut following the grain when I cut bowl blanks.

yes the strings of shavings is the problem......I can wack the wood with the grain faster than I can clean the shavings out of my electric chain saw.....I usually end up having to take the bar system off completely to clean it out several times before I am finished......I understand that there are some chains that this does not take place but I cannot give u any specifications
 
yes the strings of shavings is the problem......I can wack the wood with the grain faster than I can clean the shavings out of my electric chain saw.....I usually end up having to take the bar system off completely to clean it out several times before I am finished......I understand that there are some chains that this does not take place but I cannot give u any specifications

A rip chain will cut more efficiently, but the drive head still gets clogged with the long strings.
 
a myth.....on high surrounded by mists.....a chain that will cut with the grain as well as it does cross grain....maybe they will find it on mars......the moon is hollow, maybe it is there......loggerman will search the universe
 
I usually use an electric chain saw to quarter my logs I bring home, but it sure does make a mess compared to splitting the logs.
I help a friend split wood each year that he uses to heat his shop & house each year, we will usually grab some of the good pieces
that have interesting grain and set them off to the side for wood turning. Of the pieces I have turned, the force of the wood splitter did
not affect the quality or integrity of the wood.

Keeping the chainsaw clean of green shavings can be a pain, I have an air compressor that I use compressed air to blow the shavings
out of the chainsaw every time I finish a cut, this helps. I also use a long thin screw driver to reach in a pull the long shavings that build up
inside the chain guard housing. Sooner or later you still need to pull the cover off and do a good cleaning. It is also a good practice to remove
the drive sprocket and clean inside the internal drive housing as fine shavings will find their way inside and "gum" up the drive teeth and cause
unneeded wear on the drive sprocket teeth and bearing. Do that once a year and you can inspect the teeth on the drive sprocket and determine
how many miles/hours you have left on the drive sprocket, I like to keep a spare drive sprocket on hand, I tend to go through these about once a
year when cutting logs into wood billets for the lathe.
 
a myth.....on high surrounded by mists.....a chain that will cut with the grain as well as it does cross grain....

A ripping chain is for ripping and a regular chain is for crosscutting although you can make do with either one. From the pictures that I've seen, there aren't any trees on the other planets.

I ripped some 16" tall turning blanks on my bandsaw once. The shavings clogged up my dust collector and the lower housing of the saw. It wasn't as bad in the upper housing, but the lesson learned is that it is a lot less hassle to keep the chainsaw clean than disassembling the impeller on the DC to remove the wad of shavings.
 
From the pictures that I've seen, there aren't any trees on the other planets.

I watched a program about 10 days ago that suggested that the moon was artificial......really a wild idea that the moon was processed and placed into orbit at just the correct distance form earth and the sun.........I believe not only the us but china and other nations are planning visits to the moon and other places. if the moon is artificial they may have the mythical chainsaw.....I have not seen any mists on the moon though, but mars is suppose to have some type of storms.
 
It's dust storms on Mars... no snowstorms or hurricanes. 😀

When they said that the moon is artificial and processed do they mean processed green cheese as opposed to aged green cheese? Processed cheese uses added ingredients like enzymes, sodium citrate, vegetable oils, and corn starch to make instant cheese ... no aging required. At least they didn't say it was Velveeta. 😀
 
It's dust storms on Mars... no snowstorms or hurricanes. 😀

When they said that the moon is artificial and processed do they mean processed green cheese as opposed to aged green cheese? Processed cheese uses added ingredients like enzymes, sodium citrate, vegetable oils, and corn starch to make instant cheese ... no aging required. At least they didn't say it was Velveeta. 😀

well they did not talk about cheese, but maybe you could compare it to giant swiss cheese....they said they used the crashing of the booster into the surface of the moon with I guess sonar to decide that the moon is hollow....or not them but me sort of like swiss cheese 😱

they made a big deal about that the craters are all the same distance deep.....I do not know if this is true...maybe they used trumps twitter writer to establish this.......another big deal was the moon's location between the sun and earth.....we all know about tides and moons influence....they suggested that if the moon was in different position compared to the sun/earth things would be much different, that the moon just happens to be just right.....something about when the moon position has an eclipse ....not sure if this would not happen if the moon/earth/sun were in different positions with each other....

the program suggested that since there is renewed interest in going to moon and mars from multiple nations that something was going on......it just may be lockhart martin's claim that fusion drive within a decade is the prompt ,,,,anyway I hope a better chainsaw blade will come out of the outerspace gambit, one that cuts aged green cheese also😱
 
One of the main questions concerning the moon was the fact it rang for several hours after crash landing the moon lander
after they were done with their mission to the moon. For a large object to ring for that length of time it would need to be hollow.
This has been observed on several occasions when NASA has directed craft into the surface of the moon at high speeds.
 
well they did not talk about cheese, but maybe you could compare it to giant swiss cheese....they said they used the crashing of the booster into the surface of the moon with I guess sonar to decide that the moon is hollow....or not them but me sort of like swiss cheese 😱

Obviously, you weren't watching Nova. 😀 Were UFO's and Bigfoot involved in this program as well? 😉 But, NASA data also puts a damper on the green cheese theory as well ... whether aged or processed. I was looking forward to tasting some samples from the Apollo missions ... I had my Ritz crackers all ready just in case. 🙂

they made a big deal about that the craters are all the same distance deep.....I do not know if this is true....

No they're not all the same depth. It's not a simple problem to analyze, but a major factor is the kinetic energy of the impact which is determined by the mass of the asteroid or whatever impacts the surface and the square of its velocity. But, the depth isn't a direct correlation to kinetic energy. At impact, energy is dissipated in all directions. As ejecta is removed from the surface, it makes the diameter of the crater a better indicator of the size of the impacting object.

the program suggested that since there is renewed interest in going to moon and mars from multiple nations that something was going on......it just may be lockhart martin's claim that fusion drive within a decade is the prompt ,,,,anyway I hope a better chainsaw blade will come out of the outerspace gambit, one that cuts aged green cheese also😱

It's "Lockheed Martin" my former employer before I retired. And, yes, because of research during the 60s many advances were made in metals able to withstand harsh environments (vibration, wear, forces, corrosion, temperature, shock) in order to achieve extended lifetimes. Better chainsaw blades could possibly be one of the results of those technology advances.

One of the main questions concerning the moon was the fact it rang for several hours after crash landing the moon lander
after they were done with their mission to the moon. For a large object to ring for that length of time it would need to be hollow.
This has been observed on several occasions when NASA has directed craft into the surface of the moon at high speeds.

Asteroid impacts would punch holes (literally) in that idea as well as in a hollow moon.. 😀 I would be at a loss to explain the physics of how a hollow sphere could come to exist in the first place, not to mention rationalizing that with the Moon's known mass. The Earth vibrates and it's not hollow AFAIK. That's how we area able to detect earthquakes.
 
Obviously, you weren't watching Nova. 😀 Were UFO's and Bigfoot involved in this program as well? 😉 But, NASA data also puts a damper on the green cheese theory as well ... whether aged or processed. I was looking forward to tasting some samples from the Apollo missions ... I had my Ritz crackers all ready just in case. 🙂



No they're not all the same depth. It's not a simple problem to analyze, but a major factor is the kinetic energy of the impact which is determined by the mass of the asteroid or whatever impacts the surface and the square of its velocity. But, the depth isn't a direct correlation to kinetic energy. At impact, energy is dissipated in all directions. As ejecta is removed from the surface, it makes the diameter of the crater a better indicator of the size of the impacting object.



It's "Lockheed Martin" my former employer before I retired. And, yes, because of research during the 60s many advances were made in metals able to withstand harsh environments (vibration, wear, forces, corrosion, temperature, shock) in order to achieve extended lifetimes. Better chainsaw blades could possibly be one of the results of those technology advances.



Asteroid impacts would punch holes (literally) in that idea as well as in a hollow moon.. 😀 I would be at a loss to explain the physics of how a hollow sphere could come to exist in the first place, not to mention rationalizing that with the Moon's known mass. The Earth vibrates and it's not hollow AFAIK. That's how we area able to detect earthquakes.

You forgot to rationalize the moon ringing for a lengthy period of time after it was struck by the moon landers after they were done with the mission.
That was one of the reason's NASA wanted to repeat the experiment to try and understand the lengthy reverberations exhibited by the moon when
it is hit by an object with enough mass or inertia to cause the effect.

There is most likely a rational reason for the moon creating this effect, millions of years of asteroids impacting the surface might have created a dense
outer shell compared to the less dense materials collected by the low level of gravity of the moon.
 
You forgot to rationalize the moon ringing for a lengthy period of time after it was struck by the moon landers after they were done with the mission.
That was one of the reason's NASA wanted to repeat the experiment to try and understand the lengthy reverberations exhibited by the moon when
it is hit by an object with enough mass or inertia to cause the effect.

There is most likely a rational reason for the moon creating this effect, millions of years of asteroids impacting the surface might have created a dense
outer shell compared to the less dense materials collected by the low level of gravity of the moon.

According to the NASA link that Al gave, it has an iron and nickel core ans a basalt crust. From a physics perspective, a hollow moon defies explanation.
 
According to the NASA link that Al gave, it has an iron and nickel core ans a basalt crust. From a physics perspective, a hollow moon defies explanation.

"while studying radar data of Egypt taken by the Space Shuttle Radar Topography Mission. Using images of wind-blown sediments, sediments produced by running water, and bedrock seen by radar beneath the desert sands, the geologists pieced together the profile of an ancient megalake. Egypt’s extreme aridity enhances the ability of radar to see distinct subsurface features. Buried channels can be detected as much as 50 feet below the surface of the desert." this technology was probably developed to study the moon, planets, and asteroids. not sure if basalt is as easily read as the sands of the Egypt, but both are pretty dry. seems a chain saw blade 50 feet under the surface would stand out...especially if that is what you are looking for.
 
Why spend all that money going to other planets and the moon when we don't even know the life cycle of the great white shark? Seems we have enough down here to keep science busy for years.
Comedian said that there has to be intelligent life on other planets. You don't see them spending billions to get to earth.
 
Why spend all that money going to other planets and the moon when we don't even know the life cycle of the great white shark? Seems we have enough down here to keep science busy for years.
Comedian said that there has to be intelligent life on other planets. You don't see them spending billions to get to earth.

I believe the acceptance of the belief in global warming have nations looking for alternates. article in National Geographic this month entitled "Heat Wave: a giant patch of warm water know as the blob shocks the Pacific, in what some fear is a preview of our future oceans." I could not understand if Mark Thiessen or Craig Weich wrote the articule......strange the last corner of page 75.....a picture of one and notation about the other with a web site......curious ^.
 
basalt rock lunar.....
https://www.bing.com/images/search?...t+rock+luner&qpvt=basalt+rock+luner&FORM=IGRE
the holes are smaller than swiss cheese.....not much color in them
looks similar to Pompeii rock.....I think it has something to do with throwing up in the air......only thing is newton's theory with apples

There is significant differences between pumice, basaltic lava, and basaltic rock. For comparison purposes pumice is about 90% air, basaltic lava while not as light is full of trapped bubbles from various gasses released as a result of drop in pressure of the magma during an eruption. Basaltic rock on the other hand is very dense... even more dense than granite. Granite has a density ranging from 2.6 - 2.7 grams per cubic centimeter while basalt has a density ranging between 2.8 - 3.0 grams per cubic centimeter. At greater depth it would be compressed to a greater share density, but not as dense as it is in the Earth's mantle. Surface rocks on parts of the moon covered with ejecta from collisions and eruptions would be much lighter than the heavy basaltic rock which makes up most of the mantle.
 
At greater depth it would be compressed to a greater share density, but not as dense as it is in the Earth's mantle. Surface rocks on parts of the moon covered with ejecta from collisions and eruptions would be much lighter than the heavy basaltic rock which makes up most of the mantle.

I guess that is why it was claimed that the craters on the moon were all the same dept.....heavy basaltic rock makes protective layer
 
If .....when you rip wood with a chainsaw......you just angle the bar a little bit.......the shavings you get will be smaller and not clog the saw as much.
Hugh
 
If .....when you rip wood with a chainsaw......you just angle the bar a little bit.......the shavings you get will be smaller and not clog the saw as much.
Hugh

I tried it, but I couldn't tell much difference. If I angled the saw a lot then it slowed down the cutting a lot. I was at the local Sthil dealer today looking for a ripping chain, but they didn't know anything about its purpose. It's not surprising since they are a hardware store serving an urban market. They just said that nobody uses that kind of chain.
 
I was at the local Sthil dealer today looking for a ripping chain, but they didn't know anything about its purpose. It's not surprising since they are a hardware store serving an urban market. They just said that nobody uses that kind of chain.

Ripping technique: I slow the downward cut feed a bit and I pull the saw toward me 2-3 times during rip so gap between the bucking prongs and the wood is 2-3" letting the chips/strings clear out of the saw. Clogging depends a lot on the saw. Stihls don't seem to clog as quickly as most others. Some people grind the chip guide in the chain cover back a bit to eliminate a clog area.

Also ripping is probably easier with a longer bar saw. Saws with shorter bars rev higher which means they cut faster. Cutting too fast leads to clogs when ripping.

Ripping chains are used a lot in chainsaw mills. They are supposedly more prone to kickback. My neighbor got me my first one when he was ordering chains for the sawmill where he worked part time.
The chains are ground at about 20 degrees left, right, and maybe 0 as a chipper. I think they cut a lot cleaner surface and a bit truer when ripping. I use it if I'm ripping a whole lot for a class or something.
Most woodturners should avoid ripping chains. Swapping chains to rip a blank is not worth the effort. There is the addional risk of kickback.



You can go to baileys chain selection page. Last choice will probably have to be "no" for low kickback.
http://www.baileysonline.com/Chains...84-Drive-Links.axd?PartFinderType=ChainFinder
 
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Thanks for the information. I bought a Sthil electric saw for backyard use a couple months ago. I was really impressed by the power. I think it has more power than my Stihl gas saw. Of course, it was a lot more expensive than the big box electric saws. The bar is only 16" which is a bit short for ripping.
 
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