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Finishing room

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I'm giving thought to partitioning a small area (6'X6') in my shop as a finishing room. That's the most area I can give for this. I'm tired of putting turning, etc on hold while finish dries or, finishing in the garage in warm weather.

Anyway, I'm thinking lighting, an explosion proof vent, power, compressed air, a table on which to place pieces to finish. A bit of storage. Probably drywall and white paint, door and seal against dust. I could also use this space to set up the photo booth when needed.

Any other ideas or input?

Mike
 
Mike, I'm interested in replies to this thread, as well. I will be moving this spring from the garage to the new post and beam barn that my husband and I (along with dozens of woodturning buddies) have built.

My original plan was to turn the garage into my finishing/photo room, but the cost of maintaining and heating two separate buildings in this economy was overwhelmingly expensive.

So, as a compromise, we're walling off a 10 x 12 ft section of the 28 x 40 ft first floor to use as a finishing room. It will be framed out with 2x4's and thick plastic to act as walls; shelving on three of the four walls.. Two Jet air cleaners will be running, one of them just in front of the door to the finishing room, which will have furnace type filters to catch dust and other crap floating in the air.

I'm hoping that this plan will work, because, like you, I've run into the same problem of needing to put finishes on pieces and having to sacrifice the turning time/space because of drying finishes.
 
Are you talking about a spray booth kind of setup or just a clean room to let pieces sit and dry?

If it's just a clean room, do you have a room in your house where you can let pieces sit to dry? I put my pieces on the kitchen table to dry after I apply finishes. Works great.

I do all my spraying outside year round, but I realize this isn't an option for big chunks of the year for most of you living north of where anybody in their right mind would want to be living.......😀

If you are building an indoor spray booth to beat the cold, then you want to not posion, burn or explode yourself. You might consider moving south instead. Lots of nice houses available at the moment at great prices🙁.

Ed
 
8x10 finishing room

Mike,
When I built my shop, I built an 8x10 room in one corner. I sheetrocked the inside, taped and bedded it, and didn't even get around to painting it. That was in '92. 🙄
In the outside wall, I installed an antique 4-blade fan, that has a sealed/enclosed motor, to draw out lacquer overspray and fumes. The fan is shrouded, to control airflow. The outside of the opening is covered with self opening/closing louvers. After about the first 10 years I had to clean the louvers (messy job) to get off all the lacquer overspray. The fan switch is left on at all times, and is plugged into a power strip that is on top of the shroud. That way there are no sparks to start a fire.
I have a small rolling table with a lazy susan on top that I put right in front of the fan when I spray a small piece.
The door to the room has an opening that holds airconditioning filters, to trap dust that might want to enter when the fan is blowing. That way the fan has some air to exhaust.
It's a mess right now, or I'd take a pic. It is housing our replacement windows that we lost in a storm.
 
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Assuming all pieces get the same finish, one wouldn't affect the other while they dry.

Ditto outdoors and the lazy Susan; move indoors for drying. I'd also add one or more rotisserie drives for odd-shaped pieces to reduce runs on sprayed pieces. I don't do production turning yet, so I usually jury-rig something for each project. The axle doesn't need to be horizontal or vertical for equilibrium.

Joe
 
This is something I would love to have, also. Does it have to be a separate "room"? Couldn't you just build/buy a large show case or china closet type structure with a glass front? You can apply the finish right in your shop then put it in there to dry, out of the dust.

I'd like opinions on this because that's what I'm considering doing.
 
I'm in Cape May NJ, the southern tip of the state a few miles from the Atlantic. While the weather is moderate compared to our neighbors just to the north in Pa., it's still the northeast and during the winter, finishing outdoors is not an option.

We had our home on the market last year, as you can see I'm still here so moving isn't an option...besides we were headed to Pa. so finishing outdoors would have been even less of an option.

Al, what you have is pretty much what I have in mind. The fan exhaust at the outer wall is one thing that I wonder about. Something like you describe to keep out the cold and flying interlopers but easy to keep clean of lacquer, etc buildup. The use of water based finishes answers a way to avoid the expense of explosion/fire proof electrical devices but those type finishes won't be used all of the time. I won't be spraying huge amounts of lacquer, etc so I wonder just what the threshold is for fire hazard? If the exhaust fan is started prior to spraying so there's no buildup, will that answer?

Yes, I'll be using a "lazy susan" device. Also a threaded M33 stud that fits my faceplates and chucks mounted to hold work in position for spraying. I made a devise such as this for carving, using the stud, black pipe and an eyebolt, total about $25, much cheaper than the $150+ in the catalogs and does the same thing.

Ruth, a coppersmith friend has a shopbuilt spraybooth as you describe, made of plywood. No exhaust but the booth is in a large shop near a big overhead door. He sprays with the booth door open of course, and once the fumes dissipate he closes the booth doors. There's a lighbulb in the booth for warmth and drying after the fumes are gone. Several decades with no fire. Yes, an option.

Mike
 
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Al, what you have is pretty much what I have in mind. The fan exhaust at the outer wall is one thing that I wonder about. Something like you describe to keep out the cold and flying interlopers but easy to keep clean of lacquer, etc buildup. The use of water based finishes answers a way to avoid the expense of explosion/fire proof electrical devices but those type finishes won't be used all of the time. I won't be spraying huge amounts of lacquer, etc so I wonder just what the threshold is for fire hazard? If the exhaust fan is started prior to spraying so there's no buildup, will that answer?
Mike

Mike, if the build-up you're talking about is fumes, the answer is yes. If the build-up is overspray, the answer is no. I always start my fan before I spray, but the build-up still builds up. Just have to clean it once in a while, so the louvers still go on working with the wind of the fan. A stiff parts brush, taped to a longer handle works fine, to reach through the fan guards to the louvers.
 
Well, based on the postings so far, it sounds like what I'm planning on doing will work just fine. I don't use any sprays, like lacquer, or airbrushing paints. I almost always put finishes on pieces AFTER they're off the lathe, - pens and bottlestoppers are the only exception I can think of. Other than those, almost all my finished are usually an oil finish, like Bush Oil, Woodcraft's Urethane Oil, or a wipe-on Poly.

Someone (I think it was Ed) suggested using a 'clean room' in the house -- he uses his kitchen table for drying pieces. That would never work for me, I have two dogs and a husband. Don't ask which of those is the messiest.😀
 
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