It took me some time, but I finally figured out how to get the trees I wanted. I live on the coastal plain of South Carolina ( the low country ) and there are not a lot of great hard woods native to this area. But there are a lot of great trees that were planted in the cities and old neigborhoods as ornamentals over 50 years ago. In this area in order to take down a tree 16" in diameter or larger you have to obtain a permit from the town. I went to see the town officials, explained what I was interested in, left them a list of trees I wanted, and made the case of saving the trees from the land fill. A promise of some bowls may have helped. Now these town officials e-mail me when they permit a tree and I contact the home owner. So far - 36" Elm, 20" dia. cherry, 18" sycamore, 22" Magnolia, 24" Pecan and a 16" Hickory. I can't believe I didn't think of this before. I mean I'm so bright my ma used to call me sunny.:cool2: