Ellsworth again? help

[Tom Albrecht]

I am returning to what I call "artsy" turning. I recently sold my big Oneway and bought a big, but shorter, Robust. I have been doing primarily architectural turning for many years and I'm not saying I won't make anymore finials or rosettes, but I'm through with spindles and balusters-- I purposely did not buy the available bed extension.

Anyhow, I blew the dust off of some bowl gouges I own and I climbed up into the garage attic and my stash of bowl blanks and rough turned bowls. The latest one was dated 2001.

I would like to refresh my brain with the details of the Ellsworth grind and how to do it. A Youtube search didn't bring up much other than a preview for a Craft Supplies DVD.

Does anybody have a good link to share?

Thanks in advance.

Tom

 

[john lucas]

Here is my video on sharpening. I have more on youtube. The Ellworth grind and the Irish grind and others with wings are very similar. Most people find a grind they like by playing and then stick with it. In the video the jig that I use that is wooden is a copy of Ellsworth's jig. The grind I get with it is extremely close to the grind I get with the Wolverine jig. Most of the difference in how a grind works is on the flute shapes of different gouges. The wings of the grind will take on slightly different shapes depending on the flute shape and the angle you have the bottom leg of the Wolverine jig set to. Don't get in a tissy trying to duplicate a certain grind. Just grind it so it's sharp and then play with it. You are obviously skilled if you've done a lot of spindle work so using the bowl gouge will come quite easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbggxj2kgyc

 

[Richard Coers]

I've used something similar to the Ellsworth since I started turning. I've recently switched to the Johannes grind since he came out with the Vector grinding fixture. I prefer the angle on the sides compared to the flatter side grind I used to get.

 

[hockenbery]

Most all of my turning is done with the Ellsworth grind. I find it does the best job for me, especially for turning natural edge.
Most natural edge bowls and the outside of most hollow forms I use only the Ellsworth and 3/8 spindle gouge

I also use the Johannes Michelson grind on a 1/4" bowl gouge(3/8" bar) for finishing the first 1-2" of the inside wall of a dried bowl being returned.
I use this gouge as a finishing tool in tight spots,for hollowing balls, The grind has no bevel drag and is excellent for thin turning or working far off the tool rest.
If I have a tight cove on a hollow form rim area I use the Michelson.

I also use a 3/8 spindle gouge for shaping tenons, turning beads, and turning the foot of bowls and HFs

A couple threads down is one on natural edge bowls from a crotch. I post a link to a video of a demo In which I use Ellsworth gouge to turn the whole bowl except for using the spindle gouge to make and takeaway the tenon.
Might be worth a look to stimulate your memory.

Al

 

[Emiliano Achaval]

Ellsworth Gouge

The Ellsworth gouge is my favorite tool by far. I can make a bowl from start to finish with it, and start the sanding with 180 grit... I had a problem sharpening it, then I was told about the geiger solutions. It is a jig for the ellsworth jig, lol. With the geiger solution gizmo you can set up your oneway or other types to the perfect height and distance overtime. Best gizmo ever. Search google, but i think it is geigersolutions.com I'm also a big item turner, never done a finial yet... Best of luck, Aloha