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Cottonwood Question

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Had a guy give me some Cottonwood and just cut from a fallen tree. I have never turned it before but tried a scrap pc and it shreds. Maybe its to wet but the wood seems to be punky.......Going to try a better pc tomm and see if turn better...Also he has some Oak, Pepperwood, and grapefruit wood - I have turned the grapefruit wood and is does cut well....................



Anybody ever try turning it ?.............Thanks
 
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Cottonwood and its genus are true poplars - "popples" among the loggers - and are all fuzzy with interlocked grain. They grow fast, so there's a lot of space in there for air. Cousins the willows can't be planted near wetlands here, because they use so much water they will "drain" it as surely as a downhill grade. Cottonwoods are nearly as thirsty.

Which is why your nose would quickly realize that the piece you were turning had problems. Stagnant water smells the same whether it's open or contained. When the wood starts to rot, transpiration is blocked, and things get fragrant.

If you have a piece that's consistent and light-colored pretty much throughout you can quickly rough it, and count on it drying nearly anywhere without defect, but with deformity. Tree has a lot of inner tensions from those big branches. Take heart, it will become much more like wood when it's dry, though it will still want proper presentation and a good edge.

Whether it's worth turning is your call. It'll always be soft, will suck finish like it sucked water back when, but it can shine and shimmer pretty nicely if you have the patience. Dough bowls, popcorn bowls, and bark-up types featuring the corky bark are nice.

One final thought. Poplars are good candidates for "cubic rot," which fits your description. The wood dislodges as sharp-edge cubes. http://www.uoguelph.ca/~gbarron/MISC2003/cubicrot.htm An extreme example, though you can see it in standing dead as well.
 
around these parts, if you have a cotton wood, someday it will just fall over. They rot from the inside, become weak and lay down.
Personally, I don't think they are worth turning or burning.
 
For those WOW members who are interested in seeing how beautiful Cottonwood can be, go to page 4 of my album and there is a Cottonwood plate in the lower right corner.
I am away from my computer right now so I don't have the picture to post here.
 
Turning Cottonwood

I've turned cottonwood, it does get "fuzzy", especially when turning it wet, and it has a diSTINKtive smell.

After the bowl blanks have dried it turns pretty well, and offers a lot of nice character.
 
cottonwood

if you want to see some nicely turned cottonwood go to mike mahoneys website and see how a master does it and what can be accomplished with it
 
Hey Steve ----- are you seious about it not burning well ??
Just wondering if you are why ? I would think it would burn easy because its a soft wood............guess I may be wrong................
 
I have had good luck with turning Cottonwood after it has soaked in a 50-50 mixture of white glue and water for a couple of days and then dried completely.
 
Hey Steve ----- are you seious about it not burning well ??
Just wondering if you are why ? I would think it would burn easy because its a soft wood............guess I may be wrong................

Yep, serious. Mostly because if it is a Cottonwood, I don't even stop. I have some awesome Cottonwood burl that is about 2-3" thick. but I am guessing it is an anomaly.
 
Cottonwood trees are good for carving Kachinas. Otherwise, the cottonwood borer is my favorite insect. Their fuzzy windblown seeds that look like lint from a gin clog air conditioner condensing units and they burn like paper -- no coals, just a bunch of ash. To paraphrase an expression, "life is too short to turn cottonwood".
 
Imagine it's like willow with the interlocked grain holding on to unbound water for a long time. Makes gathered pieces a bit tougher to ignite than the same vintage maple. Other than that, it doesn't split open to oxygen and make coals like other hardwoods, but sort of hangs together and extinguishes itself (and the rest of the fire)with its own ashes. When we burned a lot of dead elm we had similar problems.
 
cottonwood

It has some awesome crotch figure, which seems to be thicker in diameter from woods. I believe it was Barbara's example that I saw that was posted when someone else asked this. It sands well, and wasn;t that thirsty of finish if sanding sealer used in the "making". Dried very quickly in 1/4" bowls. . Also can have nice spalting lines. The 4-5 bowls I made have sold.
Still smalled 6 months later but only if you picked up smelled the bottom of the bowl (i.e. no one would smell it in a room-like red cedar)
I need to cut up some large chunks that I have tried to spalt. If not spaltede or crotch figure, it's kinds boring. I think if well dried it can be used for firewood, but would avoid. Not sure of the chimney creosote characteristics and would be wary of that. Gretch
 
thanks for sharing, Barbara
 
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