Another shade of red?

[Jake Debski]

Is anyone familiar with another specie of tree, other than Box Elder, which it is not, that is native or imported to the N.E. and shows large amounts of red in the cross cut wood.

Thank you for any information or knowledge of this wood.

 

[Charlie Knighton]

do you have a color picture?????

do you think that a nail or nails was in the tree?????

no answers but questions 😕

 

[Russ Fairfield]

Could it be Carob?

 

[Rick H]

Red

Aromatic red cedar.

 

[Steve Worcester]

Could be some of the Elm species too.

 

[Jake Debski]

red pic

Three pcs. of about a dozen.

 

[Charlie Knighton]

pretty, could be nails

just a suggestion, use clear finish

 

[TONY GREENWAY]

Jake, I've cut up some tulip poplar that had grain and colors very similar to the wood in your photos. I'm not sure if they grow in your area.😕

 

[MichaelMouse]

Any tree subjected to the same fungus that produces the color in boxelder? Around here that includes balsam poplar Populus balsamifera, a tree with a mercifully short life that nurses the maples and birch in its shade. Also, rarely, the local red maple, Acer rubrum will show some red.

 

[Odie]

I don't know if this would be related to the discussion, but I have (had 😀) this bowl made from Tulipwood that has darkish red patterns to it. I'm really not sure what this is, exactly, because I don't think this is a very common example of Tulipwood.

Any guesses as to what this is, or what the causes of the coloring are?

It's possible this isn't Tulipwood at all, but that's how it was described when I bought the chunk......

ooc

 

[Jake Debski]

eureka I think

First, thank you to those that offered thoughts and suggestions. After several hours on the web this afternoon, Black Locust is as close to the timber that I have as I was able to find. The red is probably due, as MM suggested, to the same fungus that effects Box Elder and creates the stain.

This is where I found pics of the log section and blocks that match what I had before cutting. There was no noticeable stain until I ripped the cross section.

http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/locust.htm

Again thank you for the help.

 

[Richard Coers]

Any pictures of the bark? How big are those blanks? Looks like it could be plum or maybe apricot to me.

 

[Jake Debski]

Any pictures of the bark? How big are those blanks? Looks like it could be plum or maybe apricot to me.

The rounds were cut from a 3in.+/- thick stump slab. The slab had lots of bark inclusions, and was well checked when I received it. i was told it was Hawthorne, by the person that gave it to me. The splitting fit the Hawthorne profile but that was about all.

I'm not familiar with plum or apricot.

 

[flyrod444]

I've turned a bit of plum and it looks just like the wood you have. This would be my guess at what it is.
Jack

 

[Jake Debski]

I've turned a bit of plum and it looks just like the wood you have. This would be my guess at what it is.
Jack

Have gone back and checked Hobbithouse again, Carob, Plum, and Locust are similar enough. Carob,is doubtful because my chunk was cut locally, I will try to score some plum and Black locust in the not to distant future.

Thank you all again.

 

[Nate Hawkes]

First, thank you to those that offered thoughts and suggestions. After several hours on the web this afternoon, Black Locust is as close to the timber that I have as I was able to find. The red is probably due, as MM suggested, to the same fungus that effects Box Elder and creates the stain.

This is where I found pics of the log section and blocks that match what I had before cutting. There was no noticeable stain until I ripped the cross section.

http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/locust.htm

Again thank you for the help.

The pics at the top of the page are honey locust, followed by a few at the bottom of black locust, which I really doubt it is; the honey locust on the net page admittedly looks a little similar to your wood, but I think I'd guess plum or other fruit species, which along with locust, check badly. Locust of either type in log form is pretty unmistakable. My folks always heated with wood as a kid, so we burned a LOT of locust--it burns hotter and longer than oak, and will burn when still slightly wet. Bark inclusions are not uncommon with either of them, but I've never personally seen anything other than the greenish yellow to amber colors similar to the wood on the link provided. Is the slab dry?? If it were a locust, you'd know it! Very hard wood; sharp saw blades and tools needed. The other reason that I'd doubt it to be locust is that both black and honey locust trees are pretty resisitant to decay. I have no experience at all with hawthorne, so I cant comment on it. Odie, I wish tulipwood grew around here!! Tulip poplar is a pretty poor namesake for it in grain comparison...but, it does sometimes get purples and pinks when it spalts. Recently a few select turners in my area were given access to some very old, old poplar whose normally green heartwood had turned to purples and pinks in some spots. Still, these pics are different. I'm captivated now....keep us informed, and if you have any more examples, do you have a surfaced piece to do a close up picture of the grain?? Its hard to tell fine details in the pic of the blanks.

 

[John Jordan]

Close up pics would be helpful, but those could well be plum. They are NOT any kind of locust, which is not like plum, which is not like carob. They are all very different woods. If that wood is fine grained, plum is a possibility-could be an old apple which is very similar.

A good close up picture, and I can tell you. 🙂

John

 

[Jake Debski]

Close up, enough I hope.

 

[John Jordan]

No, Jake. Close enough to clearly see the grain. Do you have a macro setting on your camera?

Dogwood also often has those purple/reddish colors, too. I like the fact that you are trying to find out. I'm amazed how often pieces are posted on one of the boards, or I see them at instant galleries, and the wood type is totally wrong. 😀

John

 

[Jake Debski]

No, Jake. Close enough to clearly see the grain. Do you have a macro setting on your camera?

Dogwood also often has those purple/reddish colors, too. I like the fact that you are trying to find out. I'm amazed how often pieces are posted on one of the boards, or I see them at instant galleries, and the wood type is totally wrong. 😀

John

John, it is a point and shoot. Iave checked all the menu options, no macro. A friend has a much better camera, I'll contact him and see if we can get a few better shots.

 

[Charlie Knighton]

red

compare these two turnings both i was told were english yew

the one on the left is turned with pith in straight end grain
the one on the right is turned with pith in but blank turned at least 35 degrees so sapwood runs across top of vessel

there is a color difference with the one on the right much more red
the one on the left seems to have tighter grain

both came from Massachusetts

the one on the right was shown at Florida Woodturning Symposium

the tighter grain bothers me

the finish for the left hand one was velvit oil which darkened the sapwood, the one on the right i used a water based poly

can anybody id them better?????????

i have some more of both types, the one on left just xmas ornament size and some more hf size of the one on the right, so i would like to get it right