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alternative to Oneida Super Dust Deputy Cyclone Separator?

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Bob East

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Anyone have any experience to any alternatives of the Oneida Oneida Super Dust Deputy Cyclone Separator?

I'm finding I'm spending too much time unclogging my dust collector & need a chip deflector of some type. I'm a hobby turner & plan to use a 45 gal. trash can for the wood chips.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!​

Bob East
 
Bob East said:
Anyone have any experience to any alternatives of the Oneida Oneida Super Dust Deputy Cyclone Separator?

I'm finding I'm spending too much time unclogging my dust collector & need a chip deflector of some type. I'm a hobby turner & plan to use a 45 gal. trash can for the wood chips.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!​

Bob East
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I use a cheap little kit that fits the lid of my trash can , basically a couple of elbows through the lid ,.. Ah "Taytools 114971 4 Inch Dust Collection Cyclone Separator Kit for Trash Cans, Barrels or Custom Built Containers" - I got it on Amazon, and then I got a 35 gallon plastic barrel with a recloseable lid from global industrial - The separator kit bolts into holes you cut in the lid. Works great, although if you also have a planer, you may want to get a 55 gallon barrel - planer will fill the thing up to the tippy top real fast... and I suspect if I was vacuuming up all my lathe shavings (which I don't - I only dust collect at lathe when sanding, pretty much), I think I'd probably fill up my 35 gallon barrel about as fast.. I am very pleased with my setup, and I use a Wen 660 CFM dust collector motor, the dust bag, if I am seeing heavy use, I might have to empty every 3 months or so.
 
I built a separator for a 35 gallon steel barrel based on Phil Thein’s design several years ago. Used an elbow kit from Peachtree, the rest was scrap. Can be sized to fit whatever container you have. Was going to add weather stripping to the lid, but when I tested it I found the vacuum created enough suction to only need the groove I routed in the plywood. Search for Thein Separator, he also did a cyclone design.
I’m using a harbor freight collector to power, haven’t emptied the fines from the bag in several years. Put the collector about 8’ up on a shelf I built, dust bag goes up between the rafters. Someday I’ll move that noise outside!
Like Brian, at the lathe green shavings just get swept up. But the separator works great. For the little lathe in the basement, I use a shop vac and the bucket style Dust Deputy, that works very well but would not come close for jointer or planer!
Earl
 
What dust collector are you using? You might look at ClearVue for other cyclone choices. I believe that a cyclone will out perform a Thein type baffle, but that's not to say that a Thein won't be an improvement.
 
Russ Braun said:
Remember that the bigger the bag of waste you collect, the heavier it is to move to the trash! I am glad I didn’t go with the 55 gal size! 35 gal is a load!
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Us old guys have a tough time with those heavy bags!
 
I have one of those black plastic separator tops on a 35 gal metal trash can. Easy to find at a local woodwork store or online. Works great but as others have said, they get packed in and it does get heavy. I don't use bags in it. I put some swivel casters on the bottom of my can and roll it out to dump it.
 
Thanks to all who responded.
I'm gong to try the Taytools set. I'll post my results when I get it set up.
Thanks again.
Cheers!
Bob
 
Ctclone Dust Separator for 5 Gallon Buckets at Harbor Freight for $39.95. I'm going to try this as soon as it comes to the store here. Says will be available on line Jan 7.
 
I realize you've already decided on the taytools, but I'll have to agree with Earl. The Phil Thein separator lid is really, REALLY good. My son and I built it one Saturday afternoon about eleven or twelve years ago, and it's still working great. Like Earl said, almost nothing gets to the collection bag on the dust collector, and nothing leaks out of the steel trash can that I built mine on. It's a solid design, an interesting project, and pretty inexpensive as well. Here's Phil's webpage that discusses it: https://www.jpthien.com/cy.htm
 
What is your system like now? What is getting clogged - the filter, from normal use or from overfilling the barrel?

I have a central two stage system with a cyclone that sorts out almost all the chips- unless the bin overflows. Many such setups have a cartridge filter that is an ordeal to clean when that happens. I changed mine over to multiple tube filters because of this, mitigating the (rare) overfilling problem but I have to keep an eye on the bin. There are electronic devices you can buy or make to detect the chip level in the bin.

I made a Fein baffle for a Harbor Fright unit that I had for a while. It worked well but I still had to keep from overfilling the bottom bag. The old style bag filters that typically come on the cheap versions won't clog like a cartridge but are very poor at filtering out fine dust.

I don't even try to collect green shavings off the lathe, just pick them up with a grain scoop and push broom and put them in a barrel. I use the dust collector when turning and sanding dry pieces to pick up as much of the fines as possible. The lathe is the most difficult machine I have for collecting dust at the source.
 
“There are electronic devices you can buy or make to detect the chip level in the bin.”

Kevin, where can these electronic devices be found?

Paul
 
I use my dust collector all the time. I put the port above the turning so it only pulls the dust out of the air and not the chips. Even if your turning green wood its still putting particulates in the air. They just don't float as long as dry wood. All the chips get picked up with a plastic snow shovel and broom.
 
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