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AAW symposium selection process

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Charlie and others who expressed interest in looking at smaller venues may find it interesting to know that your AAW did include smaller venues in the search for a 2018 site.
With Phil McDonald's permission I am posting a redacted version of Phil's recap of the 2018 search process. It is premature to announce the winner so I have cleverly disguised the first and second place sites with xxxxx and yyyyyy.


"This site selection process was a departure from our traditional approach. Pursuant to AAW Board discussions in June, and listening to recommendations for new strategies that were identified by an ad hoc symposium ‘idea group’ assembled last summer, two RFP specification documents were issued. One was targeted at cities with facilities commensurate of the size and scale we have customarily sought out, and the other was sent to smaller, tier 3 / tier 4 cities. This new process allowed us to study alternatives to our symposium space model and to evaluate more compact and intimate venues. The experience in Pittsburgh was one motivator for this dual search. The added cost and inconvenience of the downtown setting and the expansive scale posed by the convention center were major detractors identified in feedback from our attendees. The 2018 search also tested the premise that smaller cities and venues might help to reduce the cost of producing and the cost of attending the symposium without sacrificing the comprehensive scale and scope of offerings that sets our symposium apart from the regional symposia. The findings from the 2018 search were highly informative. Of the 18 cities contacted, 10 offered availability for our dates and submitted proposals. In addition to XXXXX and YYYYY, proposals were received from 3 smaller Pacific Northwest cities, Spokane, Bellevue and Tacoma. We also obtained proposals from cities in other time zones, primarily as contingencies but also to inform our future search efforts. While the proposals from Tacoma and Spokane were viable and extremely attractive, they were not appreciably any more affordable than XXXXX. Tacoma would have forced us to scale back our programming to unacceptable levels, and the venue posed logistical burdens that would have compromised attendees’ experiences. And Spokane’s location was a deterrent to convenient access by our members, and lacking in chapter resources needed to properly support the event."
 
Well, being some what local, I am anxious to find out..... Seems like most venues are either too big, or too little, with nothing in the middle. Maybe I better win the lottery this time...

robo hippy
 
Al,

I understand that Spokane is a secondary market for air travel and is geographically isolated for those travelling by car (though we Westerners are accustomed to driving long distances!), but I am curious to know how it was determined that we are "lacking in chapter resources".

John
 
Thank heavens they ruled out Spokane, I can't think of a reasonably close airport, and I'm in Washington and wouldn't want to drive there from Puget Sound. No disrespect, John, I'll bet you've got great chapter resources! I've been to trade shows in Seattle, and can understand that the cost of holding a symposium there could be quite expensive, though I suppose it's possible Seattle might be xxxxx or yyyyy. Hoping for Portland, m'self. What about 2017?
 
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2017 is Kansas City. I grew up about 50 miles from there so get to see family. Portland would be nice and close for me, and last time it was there, that was my first symposium. Don't know if Salem would help, about 60 miles from the airport, and they have the Oregon Woodturning Symposium in 2017. I had thought Olympia as a possibility, but not sure about airport convenience, probably cheaper to fly into Seattle and drive down.

robo hippy
 
Al, I understand that Spokane is a secondary market for air travel and is geographically isolated for those travelling by car (though we Westerners are accustomed to driving long distances!), but I am curious to know how it was determined that we are "lacking in chapter resources". John

John
Chapter resources means the ability of AAW chapters in the area to staff the local volunteer positions.
Basically Spokane has a small number of AAW members.

To compare local support I count AAW members living 40 miles or less from the convention center and those living 75 miles or less from the convention center.
These distances represent 1 hour drive and 2 hour drive. 🙂 30 minute and 45 minute drives for westerners 🙂

56 AAW members live within 40 miles of the Spokane convention center. The other two cites had 171 and 312 within 40 miles of their convention center.
68 AAW members live within 75 miles of the Spokane convention center. The other two cities had 242 and 403 within 75 miles of their convention center.

For context, in Tampa we had about 70 volunteers positions filled by about 50 volunteers with some people filling 2 or 3 volunteer positions.

Certainly 68 enthusiastic people could fill the volunteer positions.

Al
 

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2017 is Kansas City. I grew up about 50 miles from there so get to see family. Portland would be nice and close for me, and last time it was there, that was my first symposium. Don't know if Salem would help, about 60 miles from the airport, and they have the Oregon Woodturning Symposium in 2017. I had thought Olympia as a possibility, but not sure about airport convenience, probably cheaper to fly into Seattle and drive down.

robo hippy
Olympia would be a pretty ok drive from Eugene. If you fly into Seatac, you have to go through Tacoma to get to Olympia, can be a grind, especially around Joint Base Lewis McCord (major back-ups), and the drivers are nuts on I5. Oly would be great or us peninsula people, both Olympic and Kitsap, it's a little more than an hour for moi.
 
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Thank heavens they ruled out Spokane, I can't think of a reasonably close airport, and I'm in Washington and wouldn't want to drive there from Puget Sound. No disrespect, John, I'll bet you've got great chapter resources! I've been to trade shows in Seattle, and can understand that the cost of holding a symposium there could be quite expensive, though I suppose it's possible Seattle might be xxxxx or yyyyy. Hoping for Portland, m'self. What about 2017?

Uh, we have an international airport that is a 10 minute drive from our newly expanded convention center in the heart of downtown and there is never grid-lock on the route like on I5 up to Seattle from the airport! Sea-Tac Airport is a 30 minute flight from Spokane and Puget Sound is a 4.5 hour drive away!
 
John
Chapter resources means the ability of AAW chapters in the area to staff the local volunteer positions.
Basically Spokane has a small number of AAW members.



Al

Al,

I assumed that this was the case and it only goes to underscore the challenges that you will face if you try to place the symposium outside of large urban centers. For context, I and another chapter board member had a conversation with the Visitor's Bureau reps that were bidding the event. We both expressed reservations about our chapter's ability to "step up". My question really was posed because we were never contacted directly by the AAW and had no idea that Spokane was even on the radar. Your explanation makes sense and I don't disagree with your conclusions.

John
 
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