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WTB: 4 3/4" Precision Machine screw center faceplate.

Discussion in 'Marketplace Archives' started by odie, Oct 2, 2018.

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  1. odie

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    Precision Machine 4 3/4" screw center faceplates were available from CSUSA about 10-25 years ago, and have been discontinued. I have two of these faceplates, and wish to purchase another one or two of them with a 1 1/4" x 8tpi adapter. I know this is a "shot in the dark", but if you have one of these faceplates you'd like to sell, let me know.
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  2. Gary Beasley

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    I’m sure a machine shop could add a metal plate to a regular faceplate and mount a screw dead center for you. If you are handy with metal you could do it yourself drilling and tapping a quarter inch plate to the faceplate then drill the center on the lathe to tap it out and fit a lag screw to it.
     
  3. odie

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    Yeah, probably could Gary :D Just thought I'd take a stab at trying to find someone who already has one of these Precision Machine SC faceplates.......and, isn't using it. Slim chance, I think......but, I'll keep this request open indefinitely.........hopefully, I'll find someone who has one of these laying around.........;)

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  4. odie

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    Bumping this to the top.......hopefully someone has this SC chuck and not using it.....! :D
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  5. Mike Johnson

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    Plenty of steel faceplates out there, drill and tap a hole and mount a threaded lag screw into the center of the faceplate. They make lag screws that have a machine thread on one end and a lag screw thread on the other end, these would work for this application.

    Odie,
    Is there a part number for the faceplate you have?
     
  6. odie

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    Howdy Mike.....:D

    I have several Oneway faceplates, and consider them about the best available, but I'm hoping to get another one of these PM 4 3/4" S.C. faceplates. They haven't been available for probably 20 years......I guess they were never a big seller! There probably was a part #, but I wouldn't know what it was. These two that I have, I've had for close to 30 years. Hopefully, sooner or later, I'll connect with someone who has one of these they aren't using......because I have a specific purpose for this exact screw center faceplate.

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  7. Mike Johnson

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    Odie,
    There are a few tool hoarders out there that most likely have a couple of these in their collection. Some of these collections will be coming up for auction one of these years when they are ready to go to the home. These guys usually never quit, they are at every tool auction within a 250 mile radius every week filling up a truck and trailer.
     
  8. odie

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    Well Great! Let's just hope one of these tool hoarder guys see this ad and gives me a jingle......I'd be interested in more than one, if they've got em'! :D

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    You never know what is at an estate sale unless you actually go there and sift through the stuff. Things like screw faceplates probably wind up in the landfill most of the time.
     
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    Odie, our high school shop has one and it's never used. There would be a lot of hurdles to jump to get a transaction through the bureaucracy but I'll try if you would like to go to the trouble. First off, how much would one be worth to you?
     
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    The one Dean found was 1 1/8 x 8tpi.....so, I couldn't use it. :(

    I've still got my fingers crossed that eventually, someone will have this 4 3/4" screw center faceplate with the right 1 1/4" x 8tpi threads, and they're not using it.......:D

    (note: photos of this faceplate are in post #1 above)

    Thanks
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    Seems a machinist can rethread the 1,1/8" to the required size - especially since you're not changing tpi. It also appears as though the faceplate has two parts... a machinist could remake the mount and you could attach the plate. Probably more $$ than you're willing to spend, but it is an option.
     
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    I believe you are right, Owen......contracting a machine shop to re-thread was considered, but probably much more than I'd be willing to pay. Still hoping someone has one of these, and not using it........thanks :D

    My need for this S/C faceplate is based more on a convenience for me.....and, not such a desperate need that I can't live without it.......still hoping one will turn up, though. :D

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    They do make hand taps that can be used to cut threads into various materials to adapt to a spindle thread. I have turned a number of aluminum and a few steel face plates and hand tapped the threads into the piece. Standard practice is to mount the face plate after cutting the threads and true up the face of the plate so it is perfectly square to spindle shaft. Cutting larger threads by hand takes a little patience and a few additional tools to hold the work piece and the use of additional hand wrenches to turn the tap or billet while keeping the tap centered on the work piece. This can be done by mounting the work piece on a lathe chuck and keeping the tap centered on a tail stock while advancing the tap into the work piece. Anyone that owns a lathe should also own a tap the same size as the spindle thread this allows you to fabricate various accessories for your lathe when they are hard to come by. A tap will pay for itself many times over by making your own Jamb Chucks, Longworth Chucks, Face Plates, Pen Mandrels, Mill Mandrels, Stopper Mandrels etc. The time it takes most people to research and shop for that new lathe accessory or tool I can usually have one built and in use on my lathe the same day.
     
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    Thank you, Mike.....:D

    I am only interested in the original Precision Machine faceplate, with the original threads of the correct specifications.......

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    Precision machined does not guarantee it will turn perfectly true on any other lathe, many machinists are forced to fine tune face plates and chucks when dialing them in on a new machine. It comes down to the level of tolerance you are able to live with on the parts being machined on the machine for the customer. The only time you can really precision machine a face plate or chuck is when it is mounted on your machine, there are grinding machines designed to fit on a lathe bed that are used to attain the precision tolerance on chuck jaws, face plates, mating surfaces on these types of lathe accessories.
     
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    If I am not mistaken, Precision Machine was a brand name of well made faceplates and screw chucks.
     
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    Yes, that is correct, Bill :D

    Matter of fact, I have eleven Precision Machine screw center chucks, and I've checked all of them for run-out. They are all under .002". Regardless of this, as long as the chuck stays with the turning until finished, which in my case, they do.....a little run-out is acceptable, as it makes no difference in the turning itself. The turning will be true to the spindle itself, even if the chuck isn't.

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    Sadly the marketplace over the years ........
     
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    This is the Marketplace Want To Buy subforum and not the Good Old Days troll forum. We're wandering a bit too far off topic. Odie needs a Precision Machine (brand) screw center faceplate. This isn't the right place to propose alternate solutions.
     
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    If Odie really wants one he should contact MrPete222 on YouTube, this guy was addicted to machine shop auctions for years and has a collection of just about every tool used in a shop. Send him a photo of the item you are looking for and he most likely will know if he has any on hand.
     
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    Pardon me, Mike......but, I don't see how to send MrPete222 a PM on YouTube.....do you know how to do that? I'm hoping someone who has one of these will eventually show up......:D

    Anyway, If anyone has one of these, and isn't using it, I'd appreciate hearing from you.........:)

    Precision Machine 4 3/4" screw center faceplate with a 1 1/4" x 8tpi adapter.

    Thank you very much......
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    Leaving a comment on one of his videos would be the easiest way to message him. Then you can arrange something over gmail which is what youtube uses.
     
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    OK, I left a comment with MrPete222, We'll see......I do think my best bet is to eventually connect with a woodturner who has one of these, though.......thanks.

    It is my S.O.P. to leave faceplates attached until the exterior and interior of bowls are finished before removing it......this is why I'd like to have at least one more of these......or two, if possible. I currently have two, but have one in use until the bowl it's attached to is finished.....could be several weeks for that. At this moment, I'm handicapped some, because I can't use my other one for finishing a large bowl. I must leave that one available for roughing purposes.......

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    Folks, this is painful to read, and thank you Odie for being a good sport. Please ,Odie is asking for a specific faceplate, he's an experienced woodturner with lots of knowledge and I'm sure he has thought the alternatives well, yet he keeps saying what he's looking for. If you don't have the item or don't know where to find it, refrain from commenting, let's stay on topic. And that goes for all other threads in the Marketplace. Please behave :p Sorry Odie I did not notice this earlier, Aloha
     
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    Odie, I just saw some screw center faceplates this morning at an estate sale. They were threaded for 1-1/8" x8 tpi but I don't believe it was specifically made by Precision Machine. If you would like I can email the gentleman and see if he still has them and what the price is. I'm pretty sure I saw four or five of them.
     
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    If you feel the need for political soapboxing there are plenty of places on the Internet to do so, but this isn't one of them. Regardless of how much others may share your views, that can only lead to further going off topic. The Marketplace isn't intended to be a general discussion forum. As has been stated several times, Odie is looking to buy a particular product. Please respect our rules of behavior. Emiliano is being very diplomatic.
     
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    Odie, my apologies. The ones I found are 1-1/8" and I just realized you were looking for 1-1/4".
     
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    Odie, the only Precision Machine screw center face plate I found was a three inch one, not the larger that you are looking for. If I come across the larger one I'll be sure to let you know.
     
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    Bump back to the top......:)

    I'm still interested in this faceplate, and somebody surely has one in their stash of unused stuff somewhere.....:D

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    Bump back to the top.....again. :D
     
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