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What size bowl gouges do you have/use

Discussion in 'Woodturning Discussion Forum' started by William Rogers, Dec 28, 2020.

  1. George Kuipers

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    Have been debating this with myself, 2 sharp ends are better than 1 in my opinion. Less running to the grinder.
     
  2. Karl Best

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    Related to this topic, which brands are best for an Ellsworth grind? I've got a 5/8" Crown Ellsworth, and I've applied an Ellsworth grind to my 5/8" and 1/2" D-Ways. I see a lot of love for the Thompson gouges, but is his U shaped appropriate for this grind?
     
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    Dr. Kapolowitz?
     
  4. Lars Hansen

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    No
     
  5. Kevin Jesequel

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    But the 5/8" parabolic flute gouge that Thompson makes for Lyle Jamieson would be appropriate for the Ellsworth grind. Jamieson's grind is already very similar. I have this gouge and like it a lot.
     
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    hockenbery AAW Advisor Staff Member

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    The gouge Lyle Jamieson sells is made by Thompson and has a parabolic flute.
    This gouge is my favorite tool because the flute is just a little wider than most.

    Beginners will appreciate the slightly wider flute
    Advance turners will who use the flute up shear cut with the leading edge of the wing will love it.

    My second favorite has become the Robust gouge also a parabolic flute.
     
  7. robo hippy

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    Hmm, I do have one of the DT gouges that he makes for Lyle, and looking at it, it seems to be the same V shape, but wider than the standard DT V flute. I didn't think it was a true parabolic flute. I know Doug makes a signature gouge for Jimmy Clewes as well, but don't have one of those, at least not yet.... I don't use swept back gouges any more, not since I started using the 40/40. However, I think the parabolic flute is ideally suited for the swept back grind. The V gouges from Doug also work very sell. Main thing to remember when sharpening the V flutes, is that when you roll from the nose to the wing, you roll it over faster than you do when you are sharpening a parabolic flute. If you stay too long on that transition area, you get that birds mouth effect on your gouge.

    robo hippy
     
  8. hockenbery

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    I have 2

    Description from lyle’s web site

    FLUTES
    This has a better flute configuration—Not a “V”, not a “U” shape—It is 12 inches long with a 7 inch long flute —It has a wider, parabolic flute shape than any other gouge made today—The flute change translates into easier, safer, better control.

    couple of screen shots from a demo video that show the flute
    Shows the wide round bottom of the flute.

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  9. Dennis Weiner

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    @hockenbery
    You cost me money but I am really happy with it so far.
     
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  10. Doug Freeman

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    As mentioned previously I have a BB, Crown M42 Razor, and DT 5/8” shaft Bowl gouges. Crown makes Ellsworth’s signature tool with parabolic flute, and Crown states all their bowl gouges have the same parabolic flute. Cutting wood, sharpening, or just looking at the 3 tools, there is no discernible difference among the 3 other than steel. They behave the same in a cut.
     
  11. Kevin Jenness

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    I have two 5/8"diameter gouges I use the most, a Thompson v ground 40/40 and a Crown Ellsworth signature model. I also have a 1/2" parabolic flute 40/40 which doesn't see much use and a 7/8" u shape gouge ground to about 70 degrees and almost square across for a bottom feeder. The last one seems huge but it works well with little vibration when extended out over the tool rest.

    Of the first two I like them for different qualities. The Ellsworth is more versatile, better for pull cuts and getting into the transition area on moderately deep bowls, also shear scraping due to the convex wings. The v profile seems better suited to a push cut and more efficient at hogging, plus needs sharpening less often than the M2. I use it more for roughing and for exterior finishing when possible.
     
  12. John Hicks

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    Five bowl gouges, and the realization that I wasted a bunch of money that could have been used to help someone......on the other 5 bowl gouges that is. I'll be gone and someone will be buying my stuff for pennies on the dollar. Now, where is that darn catalog I ordered?!
     
  13. Emiliano Achaval

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    You should be able to flip your lathe over rather than stalling it with a 3HP. Something is not right, maybe the belt is slipping.
     
  14. Donovan Bailey

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    The belt is not slipping and the lathe is working like a champ...but I can put a big old hunk of wet wood on there and stall it when the conditions are right.
     
  15. robo hippy

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    Emiliano, like Bill Grumbine commented once, 'I can stall a VB36'. I haven't met a lathe I can't stall. I believe there is built in 'slippage' so people don't get launched into orbit. Maybe if I had a 10 hp lathe and proper gearing, that could change. I can stall my AB and my Vic with my 1 inch Big Ugly tools, and with my 5/8 gouges, if I want to...

    robo hippy
     
  16. Emiliano Achaval

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    You guys need to try a Stubby.
     
  17. Parker Megow

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    @john lucas Are you looking to get rid of your 3/4" gouge?
     
  18. robo hippy

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    Emeliano, I am going to have to migrate over there for a play date some time, and bring my Big Ugly tool.... Probably have to wait till I can get vaccinated. My girlfriend is an ER nurse and just got her second shot...

    robo hippy
     

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