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Showing the bowl from Nic. Licata and ID ing the wood it's made of

Discussion in 'Woodturning Discussion Forum' started by Leo Van Der Loo, Oct 22, 2020.

  1. Leo Van Der Loo

    Leo Van Der Loo

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    As I don't think Nic has the right ID for the wood I did made a post on that.

    So I have some pictures here that show the leafs and flowers of the Black Locust and the Bark of that tree, also a platter that shows the Black Locust wood and grain.


    Then. 2 pictures of Elm, a bowl's interior and color, and then the side that shows the typical Elm grain, with next Nic's bowl picture that also shows that grain, easy to see the similarity of that.

    I hope to be of some help here for those that are not familiar with these woods.

    Here are the leaves and the bark of the Black Locust.
    Black Locust flowers.jpg Black Locust tree bark.jpg Black Lotus wood platter.jpg
    There are the two Elm Bowls and Nic's Bowl.
    Elm wood bowl.jpg Elmwood grain shows wwwww.jpg Nic's Bowl.jpg
     
  2. Adam Cottrill

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    The second and third pictures in the second row look the same and sure look like elm to me. In the woods I am familiar with, the 'wwwww' pattern in the grain is usually indicative of an elm, although there may be other species that have that I am not aware of that have this same pattern. The wood database notes that the pattern is called 'ulmiform' which refers to the arrangement of the pores and produces the distinct zig-zag pattern in elms (and hackberry(?)).

    Adam
     
  3. robo hippy

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    I believe that Black Locust will glow under UV light.

    Agreed that pics 2 and 3 look like elm. Black locust can be yellow to green even, and turns a dark amber, similar to Osage as it is exposed to air and UV.

    robo hippy
     
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  4. Tim Connell

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    Black Locust does indeed glow in UV light as does honey locust.

    Here are a couple of pictures to show that.

    Black Locust

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    Honey Locust

    IMG_3363.JPG


    Black Locust blanks sitting on a shelf.

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  5. JeffSmith

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    it also fumes with amonia to a very dark black with lighter striping in the winter growth rings. Can be an interesting effect.
    Here’s a very old shot of a fuming test on black locust - first round, just out of the fuming chamber/bucket. No finish. I never went to final finish, just a test...
    8F5003EE-351A-475D-84E9-7427A9BBFD2B.jpeg
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2020

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