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Osmo

Discussion in 'Woodturning Discussion Forum' started by Jamie Straw, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. Jamie Straw

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  2. Tom Albrecht

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    That looks very interesting. There has to be someplace other than Oregon, to buy it.
     
  3. John Torchick

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    I did a search and found World Class Supply in Delaware is a dealer. Didn't go farther than that.
     
  4. robo hippy

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    Since we have a Cross Cut here in Eugene, I will have to check it out. Any time there is wax in it, I think Carnuba, which has to be solvent based to get any kind of flow unless you want to really heat it up. Not practical for floors.

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  5. Tom Albrecht

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    I'd be interested in hearing what you find out Reed. I called the Seattle store, they are out of the "Top Oil" and don't do any shipping. I also called a local flooring distributor in IL who doesn't carry the "Top Oil" and had no interest in getting it. (It's a slow hunting day here in WI today).
     
  6. Mike Brazeau

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    They do have a food safe version. We were introduced to their products early this year when the Canadian GM did a brief presentation at a guild meeting. A few members are using it. The 3054 Satin Polyx Oil apparently produces a nice sheen. The waxes and oils are blends that are not common in NA. Have a look at their web site. Flat guys love it too. Stuff is expensive but goes a long way apparently.
     
  7. Yvan Santin

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    Hi All,
    I have never really posted on this forum because I feel that I am always the one that is constantly learning from all of you here and don't have much more to add then has already been said. Maybe I can help a little with this one.

    I have used the Satin Polyx Oil extensively on both table tops and bowls. Once you get the hang of it, it is fairly easy to apply. I find that it really brings the figure out of the wood without "yellowing" it like an oil such as Danish oil will. As Mike said, the Polyx Oil is food safe and gives a great look to the wood. There are a number of youtube posts that show it in use.

    My application method kind of goes like this:
    - apply it with a non-abrasive 3M or Norton pad (the Norton one is white).
    - for flat wood, work it into the wood in circular patterns until there is a slight sheen to the piece, doing a small section at a time. For bowls, this stuff loves the heat build up so I just apply it with the pad and then add light pressure at low rpm while covering the surface
    - allow to sit for a few minutes (do not let it dry!) and then buff off with a clean piece of the same 3M or Norton pad
    - clean up any residue by buffing with a lint free cloth
    - you can apply multiple coats, I just typically do a light sanding with 400x grit prior to re-application
    - after the final coat I typically wetsand to 1500x going up through the grits just to give the workpiece that "soft" feel...that's just personal preference though

    It is very resilient and if down the road there are scratches, etc it can be re-applied in localized areas without any witness lines.

    Hope this helps
     
  8. Bill Boehme

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    Are these pads like the 3M Scotch Brite pads? I saw that in addition to the familiar green pads, they have a "Fine" 6444 pad (brown), "Very Fine" 7447 pad (maroon), and "Ultra Fine" 7448 pad (gray).
     
  9. Jamie Straw

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    Yvan, thanks for the details, truly appreciated.
    That point has been emphasized by the people I've talked to, who used Osmo to finish all the stairs, tables and counters in the new BARN facility, which were made from locally harvested Big Leaf Maple.

    I haven't had a chance to go to the specialty paint store yet. Is there a semi-gloss version? If not, does anyone have a technique to get such a surface look?
     
  10. Jamie Straw

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    That's the main claim to fame, it seems -- flooring, big tables and such. Looking forward to trying it out on some bowls!
     
  11. Bill Blasic

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    It is there on Amazon but not cheap.
     
  12. Yvan Santin

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    Sorry Bill, haven't been on the forum in a while. I use the Norton pads and they are white. I will check to see what the part number is tonight. They are non-abrasive though.
     
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  13. MarkAndrews

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    I'd like to revive this thread. First to Bill's question. The pad that you want to use is the Scotch Brite White Pad like these https://www.amazon.com/3M-Scotch-Brite-Cleaning-6-Inch-98/dp/B000659ODS . Norton's Bear Tex White Pad is also a good choice https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000JXQE4E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    I heard about Osmo products from my brother in Oregon who is a professional Banjo maker. He was really excited by it's strength (scratch resistance) and the way the finish makes highly figured wood pop.
    Osmo has been around for about 35 years but basically used in Europe exclusively. Yes, it's expensive but a little goes a long way. My brother tells me that half a teaspoon will do a whole banjo neck. What sold him on the product was it's toughness. He applied it to his copy carver template for his banjo necks. The copy carver uses a metal stylus (see picture) which runs over the template to make the copy. After applying the Osmo and running the metal stylus over the template, there were no scratches on the template.
    Keep in mind, one of the main uses of Osmo is as a floor finish so it must be tough. OSMO Polyx-Oil is made from 2 natural waxes (carnauba and candelilla) and 3 natural oils (sunflower, soybean, and thistle). This a completely petrolium and solvent free finish. Here's a YouTube video by WoodWorkWeb on Osmo and it's application on flat work
    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7cgv0l4k8U

    I live in California and I've been stocking up on lacquer, lacquer thinner and paint thinner because I'm sure at some point the non water based versions of lacquer will be banned. It's simply a matter of time. Having an option like Osmo is very exciting. Personally I hate the idea of needing to wear a respirator when spraying finish. There's absolutely no need to wear protection when using this finish.
    Lastly, Osmo has food safe version called Top Oil.
    I plan on trying this product on my turnings, I will use the techniques that Yvan very generously described earlier in this thread. I'll post my impressions and lessons learned along with pictures of the finished product. I'm attaching a picture of the finished banjo. It's birdseye maple and I think it's gorgeous. My brother not only makes the wood components of the banjo he also hand makes all of the metal components. The head of the banjo is made from goat skin imported from Pakistan. If you'd like to see more of his work, you can visit his website https://www.brooksbanjos.com/
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    I'm about to purchase the Osmo Mobile by DJI, lol, I thought we were talking about making movies with our phones.... This other Osmo sounds interesting....
     
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    Just watched the video, I'm sold on this Osmo! Have to convince some club members so we can split a can....
     
  16. Raul McCai

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    I'm pretty sure that all finishes are toy & food safe once they cure.
     
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    I read somewhere your not suppose to sand past 220 grit to apply as will not soak in. That is why I have not used it as would just be a surface finish that would wear off fast . And you can see scratches at 220 in most woods. And a good tool finish would stop it from penetrating.
     
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    I just got mine yesterday. I love the look and feel of this stuff. Just put the second coat this morning on a small hollow form and also did a natural edge cedar slab coffee table. It is amazing how little of the product is needed. I did the application with the white pads like the video.
    It's expensive, but based on my first test, the cost per sq inch is probably equivalent to or less than a lot of other things. It has a beautiful velvetly texture to the wood. I'll post some pics after finishing this up. I'm really glad this post came up. Thanks Jamie.
     
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    looking for some to arrive this week - did you use the top oil? I also got some outdoor type with uv protection to try on some teak outdoor furniture that has been pressure washed every year, but has spent nearly 20 years in the weather. It’s still serviceable, but needs a little tlc.
    Looking forward to trying the topoil on bowls and seeing how the uv version reacts to weather on the teak...
     
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    I did get top oil also but have not tried it yet.
     
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    It looks that way. I just saw the price of $38 for a half liter of Top Oil. That puts it right there with General Finishes Bowl Finish that ran me ~$20 for 8 ounces. I'm not thrilled with the GF finish, so I'm going to try this one. Besides, the GF finish has a chem warning about toulene and a couple of ingredients on the label that I can't pronounce.
     
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    In Canada, Legacy Lumber sells Osmo. Haven’t tried it yet though.
     
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    Rubio Monocoat is an excellent finish. It is very durable and is easy to apply, like danish oil.
    It is easily buffed by hand with a white scotchbrite.
     
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    I use it and love it. It seems expensive but a few drops go a long way so it really is not expensive.
     
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    You will love it. Do exactly as directions indicate.
     

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