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Natural Edge Bowl Model

Randy Anderson

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At every market event I do I get asked over and over to describe how I turn a natural edge bowl. I try to hold up a bowl and show how the tree grain runs, how I spin it and turn it, etc. It's a hard thing to visualize until you've actually seen it done. I can tell by the look on most faces that they still don't understand. I'm thinking of making a small model to show the stages. Some small pieces - first one a simple blank of a log cut in half, the next with the bottom of the bowl rounded off and a tenon on the bottom, the next with the inside hollowed out. Put them in line on maybe a spinning rod so they can see how they turn, etc. Anyone ever seen or done something like this?
 

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Interesting idea Randy. I think it might make an interesting art piece. Give a name like "Evolution" or "Convergence".
 
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I have a set I made using 5 inch diameter log. The first two pieces are the half log with the bowl blank band sawed out, and just set back in its place. Then, from the same log, two bowls, one flat rimed the other natural edge. This way I can take the bowl blank out and set either the flat or natural edge in its place to show the orientation. It helps in a few ways, it's interactive, so it gets people talking (and touching, touching sells), it shows the different grain pattern in the bowl, oval or X, and, when someone offers you wood to turn, you can discuss why it has to be cut longer then they would think. A lot of people think that bowls come out of the tree in what we would call an "end grain bowl", as in the diameter of the bowl would be the diameter of the tree. After a discussion, you hear, "Oh, you mean the bowl is sideways in the tree". When I find the box it's in, I'll take pics, 5 inches is kind of small, but that makes it portable...
 
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Another option Randy, is to take a series of photos of each step and then assemble them onto one page in Power Point or a similar software. Print the page and take it with you to shows. Should be easier for them to understand once they can see each step. I have a similar page with about 12 steps for turning a bowl. It starts with Step 1: Grow a tree for 200 years, and ends with Step 12: Find a new owner to buy it. This helps customers understand why a large walnut salad bowl is $150 and not $40.
 

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Kevin, a good idea and probably as effective and where I end up but hey, then I don't get to make something which is half the reason. Thanks.
 
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I bet you could do it with a small half log and a completed natural edge bowl from the other side of the log. Just hold them up together, oriented the same. But the sequence of pictures is a good idea, too.
 

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A simple half model might do the trick.
Hollow a half log blank ( could hollow a whole log section) with the ends left square the stand it in end they will be able to see the bowl. A small piece shallow hollowing. 5” diameter 8” long hollow 6” x 3.

I have had success explains this by holding a bowl oriented like the the tree grew and waving a hand around where the bark was. Everyone seems to understand this explanation in less than 10 seconds.
 

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I thought about that but thinking that I show them how it's turned, headstock to left so mount log, turn bottom, make tenon, then flip then hollow holding by tenon. Easy to slide them off and on so if they still looked puzzled I can adapt. I even left the corners of the blank on so there's no confusion on how it got that shape. If they can't visualize how to split a round log down the middle then not sure I can help them.
 
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Might replace the bowl on the right with a rimmed bowl, in the orientation its in. You will have finished NE bowls on display to show how the middle pice gets hollowed out.
 

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I tested my model on some folks and some of you were right, turning the right hand bowl to match the orientation of the others helped. Folks aren't thinking about mounting orientation like I was. Dave, some good ideas in his video for small props I might try.
 
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