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Discussion in 'Woodturning Discussion Forum' started by Bill Boehme, Oct 12, 2020.

  1. Bill Boehme

    Bill Boehme Administrator Staff Member

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    Some recent discussions in the Tech Support sub forum reported an unusual situation in which newly created threads containing the word "Shavings" in the title couldn't be accessed ... and instead, the following error message was displayed:
    Forbidden

    You don't have permission to access this resource.
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    Subsequently, I have discovered that any word in the title that contained the six letter sequence "having" would cause the thread to no longer be viewable and instead would display the "forbidden" message. This means that the following words must not be used in the title until we figure out how to fix the problem:
    • having
    • shaving
    • shavings
    • behaving
    • misbehaving
    • reshaving
    • $havings, XYZhaving, 123having and other such non-word sequences
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    Going all the way back to the beginning of the forum in 2004 there are less than thirty threads with Shaving or Shavings in the title making them unreadable. I couldn't search on the word "having" because the forum search engine considered the word too common.

    The words containing "having" can be used in the body of a post, but not the title. It's up to your ingenuity to come up with substitute words, but not being able to use "shavings" on a woodturning forum is just weird.
     
    Bill Boehme, Oct 12, 2020
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  2. Forrest Forschmiedt

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    It's happening on other forums as well. Software update??
     
    Forrest Forschmiedt, Oct 12, 2020
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  3. robo hippy

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    I blame that on the computers!!!!

    robo hippy
     
    robo hippy, Oct 12, 2020
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  4. Bill Boehme

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    This is fixable without the need for a software update, but FYI we're working on a customized version of XenForo 2.X that has basically the same UI as we currently have in order to minimize or eliminate any heartburn over the transition when we do upgrade.
     
    Bill Boehme, Oct 12, 2020
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  5. Forrest Forschmiedt

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    I was thinking perhaps it was caused by a software update.
    One step forward, two steps back...
     
    Forrest Forschmiedt, Oct 12, 2020
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  6. Mark Jundanian

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    @Bill Boehme , have you tried interposing a space, "hav ing"?
    I'd give it a try, but if it goes forbidden I can't delete the post.
     
    Mark Jundanian, Oct 12, 2020
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  7. Bill Boehme

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    I verified that inserting a space or any other character works, but impacts readability.
     
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  8. Dave Landers

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    So I have, as my forum bookmark, the New Posts page. That Picking Up Shavings post is now always in the New / Unread list, because of the permission problem. Any chance of deleting it, since noone can read it anyway?
     
    Dave Landers, Oct 12, 2020
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  9. Bill Boehme

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    I discovered that it was still there about an hour ago and deleted it. Normally, when threads are merged you wind up with just one thread. However, in this situation the merge works OK, but the one that was supposed to disappear was still there. Fortunately, I was able to delete it.
     
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  10. John Torchick

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    Interesting thread, Bill. Thanks for the info. FWIW, I did a search on a website and came up with items totally unrelated to my search word as long as it had the letter sequence included.
     
    John Torchick, Oct 13, 2020
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    All in all, not a huge issue when you step back and see the amazing amount of info posted here! Funny how this glitch even exists!
     
    Russ Braun, Oct 13, 2020
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    And everyone thought the year 2000 was going to be a problem, 2020 no-one saw this coming.
     
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    @Bill Boehme can never retire, I would not know even where to start looking into this problem. Thank you Bill, I know you were working way past your bedtime last night.
     
    Emiliano Achaval, Oct 14, 2020
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    This problem has now been fixed. It was a security rule in the server software on prevent SQL injection attacks. I changed the rule and you can now start using Having again :) If you guys run into any other keyword errors like this please let Bill or I know and we will take care of it. Thanks!
     
    Chris Fairbanks, Oct 26, 2020
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  15. Bill Boehme

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    Thank you, Chris. That was a very strange problem.
     
    Bill Boehme, Oct 26, 2020
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    I could not access forum all day Saturday and Sunday.....worked fine today.....any thoughts?
     
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  17. Bill Boehme

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    If you couldn't access the forum at all then the problem you were having was somewhere other than the forum. The delays that I experienced were sometimes between thirty seconds and a minute, but there wasn't any period where the forum couldn't be accessed.
     
    Bill Boehme, Oct 27, 2020
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    very strange. good catch.
     
    Dave Hulett, Oct 29, 2020
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  19. Bill Boehme

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    Since the problem has been fixed, I'm unsticking this thread. If anybody encounters any other keyword in a thread title that causes this problem, please report it to a moderator.
     
    Bill Boehme, Oct 29, 2020
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