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Board Election Results

Discussion in 'AAW Information' started by Ed Davidson, Nov 7, 2010.

  1. Ed Davidson

    Ed Davidson

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    Congratulations to Tom Wirsing (re-elected for a 2nd term), Stan Wellborn and Botho von Hampeln for their election to the AAW Board of Directors. Each of these volunteers will serve a three-year term, beginning January 1, 2011.

    Handling of all membership votes and tabulation of those votes was managed by an independent audit firm.
     
  2. Stuart Johnson

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    Votes Cast

    Ed, do you know when or if the total votes cast and received will be posted?
     
  3. Ed Davidson

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    Stuart,

    Sorry, I don't have that information - I'll check with the Saint Paul office on Monday to see if that number can be published.

     
  4. Jake Debski

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    Stuart, those totals have never been posted, at least not as far back as I have been a member.

    I suspect it is, or was reasoned, so as not to embarrass anyone willing to volunteer to be a director. Another possibility is not to have to admit that fewer than a small very percentage of the membership bother to vote.
     
  5. Mark Mandell

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    Got an e-mail from a member asking me if it was true that IRS had "rules" that required 501c(3) not-for-profits to publish their election results beyond who won.

    The simple answer is "No."

    The better answer is that there are no Federal (including IRS) rules covering conduct of not-for-profits other than compliance with tax issues and the prohibition on public charities being involved in political activities etm.
     
  6. Stuart Johnson

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    Thanks Mark. I was going cross eyed trying to find something that actually said anything about about 501c(3) and what could and couldn't be done. Everything I came up with seems to say if other than IRS and politics it is whatever the bylaws say which can be very broad.
     
  7. Mark Mandell

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    I think many people conflate Open Meeting statutes that can have an impact on governance of public charities (that may receive substantial amounts of government funding) with essentially "semi-private" not-for-profits like the AAW.
     
  8. Jake Debski

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    Mark, I never gave the not-for-profits rules any consideration in not having the rules posted. I asked a director once at a symposium, don't remember which(symposium or director), about the totals not being published. The answer was "Ya know we just never have, I don't think that there is a reason one way or the other." I chalked up to not being that important in the whole scheme of things.
     
  9. Mark Mandell

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    Importance

    I tend to agree that beyond personal curiosity, the information is of little significance except to the few unelected candidates who might wish to run again and would like to gauge their chances. In a six-way race for three seats, it's not like there'll be recounts and special run-offs.;)
     
  10. hockenbery

    hockenbery AAW Advisor Staff Member

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    My feeling it is a binary result all elected are equal all non elected are equal.

    "run-off" sparks a question.

    How would the AAW resolve a tie???
    While this may never happen There should be a plan.

    Maybe a tie breaker should be incorporated into the bylaw re-write

    worst case is a 6 way tie for first so the tie breaker could address multiple ties. A tie for third may actually happen. It would be nice to have a codified method of resolving the tie.

    two possible tie breakers a coin flip.... or longest AAW member...


    happy turning
    Al
     
  11. Mark Mandell

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    Tiebreaker

    A. Size matters - guy with the biggest . . . lathe wins?

    B. Steel cage MMA match at the next symposium with EOG selling tickets?

    C. A Double Jeopardy round based upon obscure references to AAW history?

    [Special run-off for 3rd place would be required. Tie at top means two seats filled and other seat goes to next in line, etm.]
     
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2010
  12. Steve Worcester

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    How about us judging their turnings?
     
  13. Mark Wollschlager

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    Perhaps the one who can hold their breath and stamp their feet longest.
    Mark
     

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