4th foreign body in eye

[Gretch Flo]

I have written previously about wooden foreign material in my eyes. First was stupidity, second was lifting off my glasses/or helmet or something off head, another was washing my face with face cloth.
At 3:30 this afternoon while starting the outside of a greenish honey locust (it makes some curls, but chunks and wet saw dust even with newly sharpened gousges), I stopped to go make a phone call. I took off my shirt and shook it. Got something in eye. Tried for 15 min to remove (flushes, pulling top eyelid over bottom, etc.) To no avail. Called our veterinary ophthamologist who has removed the other 3 foreign bodies, and he said come on it. I went right to the vet clinic before his 5 pm seminar. put drops in. looked and saw the speck and rolled it out with a tip. (also said I was brewing a cateract!!!) Left for home 20 min later. If I went to emergency, I would still be filling out paperwork, and I got an experienced, great specialist to boot. Of course it helps that his vet wife is a bowlaholic and has bought many from me thru the years. My eye feels great. Going to slay the "beast" (nat edge H. Locust) tomorrow with relish!!! Gretch

 

[Bill Boehme]

Did you get a treat for being good?

 

[Charlie Knighton]

glad you have a plan to correct eye issues

also said I was brewing a cateract!!!

sorry to this, it is worrisome, and you can go form corrected vision with glasses to 20/180 with glasses.....this can be corrected, and is done on outpatient basis....go in about 8 am.....you are out for lunch

 

[Ddale Lowe]

Just wondering if he can also do the cateract surgery. I would be happy to supply a nice bowl for his wife !!

 

[Gretch Flo]

Just heard from ophthalmologists' wife on an academic matter and as an aside I had related how wonderful and useful!!! her husband was. This is her response.
"
Simon is a wonderful and very useful soul...he knows he has to keep you turning wood to support my addiction! "
Cheers
Bry

 

[Gretch Flo]

Did you get a treat for being good?

No he just said I was tougher than nails-not sure what that statement was all about.
Gretch

 

[Bill Boehme]

One of our club members is a vet and one time when we had a turning class one of the participants got whacked on his arm with a piece of wood when it came off his lathe. He thought that it might have been fractured so he went to the vet clinic which was nearby to get an x-ray. His arm was OK ... just a bad bruise, but we wanted the vet to put an E-collar on him anyway.

I would be interested in finding out if Medicare would cover the cost if I went to the vet.

 

[John Torchick]

Good to have someone that can take care of your health needs. It's who you know and not what you know that counts. Just be glad he didn't check you for worms.
As for the cataract, have an optometrist or ophthalmologist keep track of it. My wife had surgery for two cataracts this past fall and came through with flying colors. But she had to go to glasses instead of contact lenses.
I told her she should be glad she wasn't a fly!

 

[John Solie]

No he just said I was tougher than nails-not sure what that statement was all about.
Gretch

Maybe he's used to his patients biting and you didn't?

 

[Mark Mandell]

I would be interested in finding out if Medicare would cover the cost if I went to the vet.

They might if you WOOF! at them loudly enough

See after your fifth call to the help desk demanding reimbursement, the next one goes like this:

"Sally, it's that crazy son of a ***** demanding to get his vet bill paid!"
"A real s.o.b. with a Medicare number? Well why didn't he say so in the first place. Pay the bill!"

 

[Bill Boehme]

They might if you WOOF! at them loudly enough

See after your fifth call to the help desk demanding reimbursement, the next one goes like this:

"Sally, it's that crazy son of a ***** demanding to get his vet bill paid!"
"A real s.o.b. with a Medicare number? Well why didn't he say so in the first place. Pay the bill!"

So after a bit of howling and whimpering things will work out? Thanks for the advice.

 

[John Solie]

So after a bit of howling and whimpering things will work out? Thanks for the advice.

Yes, hounding them is key.

 

[Gretch Flo]

Maybe he's used to his patients biting and you didn't?

he was cocky-didn't muzzle me!!!! Gretch

 

[Gretch Flo]

So the real problem is how to prevent this?????? 3 of the foreign bodies in my eyes came from my clothing ,hair, or helmet. This afternoon when shaking out my shirt, I shut my eyes, as I do when I brush shavings out of my hair. Don't imagine I will do this all the time, Gretch

 

[Bill Boehme]

Brushing shavings out of my hair is not an issue.

Having a chrome dome has all sorts of benefits.

 

[Dean Center]

Gretch,
It's probably not possible to prevent them. These are just very large bits of dust that drift in the air or drop from from the hair or clothes. They're a nuisance, but not serious. The ones that are important to prevent are the ones moving at high speed. That's what the glasses, goggles, and face shields are really for.

BTW, all of you who get some of your health care from your local vet should be aware that the vet is violating your state's medical practice act when he or she takes care of you. (Same goes if your people doctor attends to your pet) If they don't charge you or your insurer, they probably won't get into trouble, but they might. If you like and appreciate them for helping you out, it would be a favor to them not to broadcast the info where overly tight sphinctered people might hear.

 

[Gretch Flo]

Gretch,

If they don't charge you or your insurer, they probably won't get into trouble, but they might.

How could they get into trouble? ????? I asked him for help. (Unless , say for example, he stabbed my eyeball, and I sued him) Gretch

 

[Bill Boehme]

Dean, if you asked someone (spouse, co-worker, friend, homeless stranger on the street) to see if they could help get something out of your eye, would they get into trouble if they helped? Explain why it would be different if the friend were a veterinarian.

 

[DOCworks]

I has to do with professional licensing. It's called practicing Medicine or Veterinary without a license, it is against the law. We all do it, if you don't charge for it there really isn't a whole lot they can enforce, but. It's a good story though. If you have ever dealt with the Medical review board, well lets just say they don't have much of a sense of humor. My father missed a licensing deadline by 2 days, because of an issue they created and was unable to practice in FL for 4 months. That was just paperwork.

 

[Bill Boehme]

I have a solution

My vet has me listed as an old goat so it looks like there isn't any problem with him treating me.

 

[Dean Center]

Your next door neighbor does not hold him or herself out as having any skill beyond an ordinary individual. A veterinarian is a trained professional who is providing treatment, using his or her professional experience, to a species for which he or she is not licensed. In some states, using a tool to remove the foreign material might meet the definition of 'surgery'. Also, as a professional, the vet is expected to a) know better and b) act in a higher than ordinary ethical manner. In our state, a provider in a small town got into trouble for xraying a dog with an injured leg. He was not disciplined beyond a stern warning not to practice outside the scope of his license. Acting as a Good Samaritan, and not charging, undoubtedly helped his cause.

This may sound overly serious and restrictive, but it's ultimately for your own good. What if your MD recommended ibuprofen for your dog's painful condition unaware that dogs are not like people and that it can cause kidney damage at low doses in dogs? What if your well intentioned chiropractor gave your teenager some exercises and adjustments, and advised you she would no longer need insulin for her diabetes? (It actually happened)

 

[Bill Boehme]

BTW, the story that I heard was probably just the guys in the class joking around with the one who was injured by the wood coming off the lathe. I wasn't in that class, so when I was there the next day, I heard some of the others laughing about hauling him off to the vet. But, on the other hand, we do have some members who are pretty close to their money so ... just saying. :cool2:

 

[Gretch Flo]

A veterinarian is a trained professional who is providing treatment, using his or her professional experience, to a species for which he or she is not licensed. In some states, using a tool to remove the foreign material might meet the definition of 'surgery'. Also, as a professional, the vet is expected to a) know better and b) act in a higher than ordinary ethical manner.

Dean-rest assured I have the greatest confidence in this vet opth to do a simple foreign body removal. He has a PHD, boarded and does research that in dogs that affects
humans. I of course would not want him to do a cataract (which he does in dogs) or glaucoma/retinal detachment, etc. I agree with the practice acts that restrict Practice to the species for which they are licensed, but there are gray areas where there was no $ exchanged, and the person was highly qualified , the problem was simple (certainly if he saw shrapnel in my eye, he'd have sent me to the "real" docs) , and he was a friend . Gretch

 

[Bill Boehme]

... and you weren't taken there on a leash or carrier. And, if the vet did't say, "what are we seeing Gretchie for today?" or ask if Gretchie's tags are current.

 

[Kevin Miller]

I have written previously about wooden foreign material in my eyes. First was stupidity, second was lifting off my glasses/or helmet or something off head, another was washing my face with face cloth.
At 3:30 this afternoon while starting the outside of a greenish honey locust (it makes some curls, but chunks and wet saw dust even with newly sharpened gousges), I stopped to go make a phone call. I took off my shirt and shook it. Got something in eye. Tried for 15 min to remove (flushes, pulling top eyelid over bottom, etc.) To no avail. Called our veterinary ophthamologist who has removed the other 3 foreign bodies, and he said come on it. I went right to the vet clinic before his 5 pm seminar. put drops in. looked and saw the speck and rolled it out with a tip. (also said I was brewing a cateract!!!) Left for home 20 min later. If I went to emergency, I would still be filling out paperwork, and I got an experienced, great specialist to boot. Of course it helps that his vet wife is a bowlaholic and has bought many from me thru the years. My eye feels great. Going to slay the "beast" (nat edge H. Locust) tomorrow with relish!!! Gretch

My wife is a Vet Tech and I've had my share of vet treatments over the years! So I'm right there with you.