i was referred to wed site in hawiai about norfolk pine on this board and inspired by that work i took my chance and cut some pine from a tree that fell in the neighborhood, i rounded it between centers, made a chuck hold, rough shaped the outside and interior. it was snowing today and i tried to boil the pine but my propane stove never got the water boiling so i just got it as hot as possible for about 3 hours instead of boiling for 1 hour. a lot of sap came out of the vase and coated the pot which i chipped off . i took the vase and put in trash bag with shavings. i plan to check the vase next week hopefully and finish turning it. any suggestions, don't dos, must do this, comnents etc would be appreacitated